FBI raid on Trump's home

[Tgo01]

Taking the snark out, I’m curious what you’re basing your opinion on. Do you believe an administration can not classify or declassify anything not protected by federal statute?

This would give the president unilateral power to pretty much send anyone he wants to prison. Just declare something to suddenly be classified and now anyone in possession of these documents, whether they know it has been classified or not, is now a criminal.

If this is how it works then everyone should be against this. But since it’s Trump Democrats will pretend this makes total sense.

[Sighisoara]

This would give the president unilateral power to pretty much send anyone he wants to prison. Just declare something to suddenly be classified and now anyone in possession of these documents, whether they know it has been classified or not, is now a criminal.

If this is how it works then everyone should be against this. But since it’s Trump Democrats will pretend this makes total sense.

I think that’s a pretty gross overstatement. First, there would have to be knowledge. A close second is that it can’t just be anything, it has to be federal property.

[time4fun]

I should also point out that the legal issues here completely obscure the REAL issues.

Let's say that Trump DID declassify TP/SCI material- that means he took material that " its unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security." and decided to make it legal to disseminate that kind of information and then to take it to his private residence and then to go out of his way to avoid giving it back to the DoJ after 15 months of them trying to get that material back.



And that's the BEST CASE scenario here.

[time4fun]

This would give the president unilateral power to pretty much send anyone he wants to prison. Just declare something to suddenly be classified and now anyone in possession of these documents, whether they know it has been classified or not, is now a criminal.

If this is how it works then everyone should be against this. But since it’s Trump Democrats will pretend this makes total sense.

Literally no one is arguing that makes sense. Literally. No. One.

And, in fact, you've just demonstrated exactly why the argument that Trump could just "decide" something was declassified without telling anyone about it is utterly ridiculous.

[Sighisoara]

I should also point out that the legal issues here completely obscure the REAL issues.

Let's say that Trump DID declassify TP/SCI material- that means he took material that " its unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security." and decided to make it legal to disseminate that kind of information and then to take it to his private residence and then to go out of his way to avoid giving it back to the DoJ after 15 months of them trying to get that material back.



And that's the BEST CASE scenario here.

I think this is a pretty big overstatement, too.

[Tgo01]

Literally no one is arguing that makes sense. Literally. No. One.

You literally said Biden decided anything marked classified is now classified and now Trump is going to prison.

I guess you realized how dumb that sounds and are now backpedaling.

[Tgo01]

I think that’s a pretty gross overstatement. First, there would have to be knowledge. A close second is that it can’t just be anything, it has to be federal property.

Who would need knowledge of what?

[time4fun]

I think this is a pretty big overstatement, too.

Which part, specifically?

[Gelston]

I’ll ask you the same thing, why not?

Do you think a President should have the power to classify anything he wants? Say he wants to classify a magazine, should that be allowed? Should that hold up?

[Sighisoara]

Which part, specifically?

The second paragraph and the conclusion.