CHRISTIE: Well, that's what I was going to say, George. This is not a '22 issue. This is a '24 issue. In 2022, when you have inflation running like it is, issues of crime, concerns about Ukraine and Russia, and all the rest of that, the American people are much more consumed with that and Donald Trump is not on the ballot. Now, if he decides to run in 2024, that's when this will become much, much more important, because I think what you see underlying that in those numbers is what Republicans are talking about right now, which is, he can't win a general election in '24. If independents believe what they believe in the poll, and if they're as concerned as they seem to be, then there's no way you can win as a Republican in this country for a presidential race if they have completely abandoned you.
And by the way, that's what all of those people were telling him in 2020, that folks, especially educated suburban white women, were abandoning him in droves. And he talked about it in his rallies. Remember he would say, you know, suburban women, please like me. OK, he knew. That was not -- he tries to make it now like it was a joke. I was there. It was no joke. He was saying that because he was being told that's what his problem was. That problem has not changed. And everything that's happening in this committee solidifies that, puts it in concrete. And that's why it's a '24 issue.
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