Things that made you Facepalm today (Political Version)

[drauz]

There's literally a way to quantify it... it just doesn't fit your narrow narrative so you dismiss it.

You claimed that guns are a "net loss of human life" and I asked you to show your math on that.

You can't because we both know you just made that up.

There literally isn't because each defensive use of a gun isn't someone being in mortal danger.

I already showed you how gun death equal more than the defensive use of guns but YOU dismissed the facts presented and said they didn't count because they didn't fit YOUR narrative.

[drauz]

Half of all suicides are with guns. The other half just didn't have a gun available? In this country where you can just go to Walmart and pick one up?.

Gun suicides are nearly twice the next type of suicide. Not everyone uses guns, it's almost like every kind of mental illness isn't the same. Are you really trying to argue this?

As Gelston pointed out, other types of suicide aren't as immediately final as a gun shot to the head.

[Seran]

Despite the lies told by the NRA and now parroted by a very mistaken Conservative media, it has /not/ been longstanding precedent that individuals had a right to bear arms. But rather up to individual states to police guns within their borders.

“I admire Justice Stevens but his supposedly ‘simple but dramatic’ step of repealing the 2d Am is AWFUL advice,” tweeted Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor. “The obstacle to strong gun laws is political, not legal. Urging a politically impossible effort just strengthens opponents of achievable reform.”

Tribe expanded on his argument in a Washington Post op-ed, headlined “The Second Amendment isn’t the problem.” “The NRA’s strongest rallying cry has been: ‘They’re coming for our beloved Second Amendment,’” he wrote. “Enter Stevens, stage left, boldly calling for the amendment’s demise, thereby giving aid and comfort to the gun lobby’s favorite argument.”

In his op-ed, Stevens wrote that repeal was necessary to overturn the Supreme Court’s 2008 District of Columbia v. Heller ruling that Americans had an individual right to bear arms. He was one of four dissenters in that case.

“For over 200 years after the adoption of the Second Amendment, it was uniformly understood as not placing any limit on either federal or state authority to enact gun control legislation,” Stevens wrote in the op-ed.

Republican President Gerald Ford nominated Stevens to the court in 1975, at a time when Supreme Court nominations were not as politicized as they are today. Stevens eventually became one of its most liberal members. Although his 2018 proposal didn’t go anywhere, calls for repeal continue today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...ent/ar-AAXPhQV

[Seran]

A precedent established by a conservative court within the last 14 years is /not/ established caselaw, but rather the fanciful musing of political wishfulness in 2008.

[Parkbandit]

Gun suicides are nearly twice the next type of suicide. Not everyone uses guns, it's almost like every kind of mental illness isn't the same. Are you really trying to argue this?

Half of all suicides are with guns. That's what I said.

As Gelston pointed out, other types of suicide aren't as immediately final as a gun shot to the head.

True.

Now, did you want to show your math about how "guns are a net loss of human life" yet.. or you want to just switch to suicide methods?

[Parkbandit]

Despite the lies told by the NRA and now parroted by a very mistaken Conservative media, it has /not/ been longstanding precedent that individuals had a right to bear arms. But rather up to individual states to police guns within their borders.

Correct. In the history of this planet, the US citizens having a right to bear arms for 234 years is just a tiny fraction of time when you account for the 4.7 billion years.

Good catch Seran.

[Parkbandit]

A precedent established by a conservative court within the last 14 years is /not/ established caselaw, but rather the fanciful musing of political wishfulness in 2008.

Absolutely..... if Seran was smarter than a SCOTUS Judge on Constitutional law.....

[Neveragain]

Imagine a scenario where your child has just been murdered in a town, along side 18 other children, and the police failed to protect the children. The next day a dude dressed up like a woman knocks on your door and demands that you hand over your firearms.

[joeyb]

I'll take "Things Democrats supported" for $1000, Alex.

lol literally irrelevant. you know, you can just admit i'm right and that you're old and have bad opinions without being more of an idiot.

[joeyb]

Nobody is talking about taking away your right to be a tranny.

That doesn't mean we're not going to stop pointing and laughing at you.

what? someone please come and get your grandpa. he's wandering around my bushes again and scaring the dog