We just spent the last 20 years invading sovereign states... Do we deserve to have our economy set back to the stone age?Originally Posted by Seran
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We just spent the last 20 years invading sovereign states... Do we deserve to have our economy set back to the stone age?
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~ Marcus Aurelius“It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
― George Orwell, 1984
“The urge to shout filthy words at the top of his voice was as strong as ever.”
― George Orwell, 1984
God of Tits and Wine
Sirens are going off. Appears Kyiv is under attack.
Unfuckingreal.
God of Tits and Wine
No business placing sanctions or supporting Ukraine? Fuck you.
Retarded Commie
Holy fuck. My friends in Kiev are fleeing.
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First off, yes we did deserve global repercussions. Secondly, even when we did those things we were still promoting democracy. We tried to end authoritarian regimes and help those countries transition to free societies.
Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why Russia has been facing sanctions from the Western world? They're facing sanctions because they've been systematically targeting Western countries to attack their democracies. Or, you know, in the case of Ukraine literally attacking their people with weapons.
The entire West is currently in a democratic backslide, and Russia is at the center of most of it. The UK's Brexit Movement, the rise of the National Front in France, the destruction of the Polish democracy by the Law and Order Party, and the hijacking of the Republican party and Donald Trump's rise in the US are just some of the destabilizing events Russia has supported that have undermined democracy in the West over the past decade. There's a reason, for example, why literally all of those parties/political leaders have been critical of NATO. No one in the West questioned NATO at all until Putin started helping far right parties and political figures rise in their respective countries.
Vladimir Putin is the enemy of freedom. This attack on Ukraine is evil on every level.
And Gelston is right. You're currently siding with authoritarianism and communists over free democratic societies. And I just pray that you- and people like you- wake up before it's too late.
Though at this point, it's also hard to ignore the strong possibility that you know full well what you're doing. You've just given up on free democratic society because you figure it's not really going to get you what you want.
That's a really scary thought. I don't know that we can come back from that point.
I spit that hot FIYAAA!!!
Yeah I hear the people leaving Ukraine are Russian to get out in a hurry.
Wow Biden is completely useless.
The entire world is now worse off under Biden than they ever were under Trump. Thanks, Biden!
Retarded Commie
NATO should send fucking troops into Kiev. Stop being fucking useless.
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God of Tits and Wine
Is Biden the president of Ukraine or Europe? You fucking people are pathetic.
You’re the type of twisted piece of shit that’ll blame Biden for this, and then when he does something say the US should stay out. You’re a fucking lunatic. You’re nuts. Seek help.
Last edited by SHAFT; 02-24-2022 at 12:49 AM.
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Ukraine isn't a member state. Though they're part of a strategic partner program.
But sending troops into Ukraine is risking another World War. And there's a good chance the West would be facing off against Russia AND China in that instance.
No one wins in that scenario.
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