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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Seran when Trump is president: ZOMG! Trump just totally bullied our good and trusted ally Ukraine! Impeach him!
    Seran when Biden is president: LOL! Fuck Ukraine! Let them all die!

    Seran is a good warning story to little children. "Never dive head first into far left politics or else you might grow up to be a bitter, jaded, shit head like this man did."
    Donald Trump trying to blackmail Ukraine into fabricating damning evidence against his political opponent with "the perfect phone call" is not leadership.

    President Biden sending armed forces to NATO ally countries surrounding Ukraine, announcing to the world Russia was going to invade (which they did.) and now imposing massive sanctions as a result. That is leadership. It's just sad you Conservashits don't understand the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    No dude you can trot out as many opinion pieces as you want but they're just somebody we trade with. We have absolutely no obligation to protect Ukraine. Fucking stupid that you sit here and and contradict the Secretary of State's information page with a Forbes article. What a fool you are.

    As for the United Kingdom, you obviously didn't read that page otherwise you would have noticed they're listed as our Ally and a security partner. Never mind the page lists them as a fellow NATO member.
    So the UK isn't an ally either, because, you know, it doesn't say ally on there.

    The fact that we literally have an economic treaty (economic ally!!!) with them apparently means nothing to you.

    But yeah, you don't know what the word "ally" means but still presume to know more than entire institutes that study foreign and diplomatic policies.

    And again, I never said we were military allies, nor did I say we had a duty to defend them, as you can see in my quote below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    We don't have a military treaty with the Ukraine, but they are very much considered an ally.
    You responded with a web address, that you didn't seem to read, because it very much mentions treaties and partnerships with the Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    imposing massive sanctions


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    No dude you can trot out as many opinion pieces as you want but they're just somebody we trade with. We have absolutely no obligation to protect Ukraine. Fucking stupid that you sit here and and contradict the Secretary of State's information page with a Forbes article. What a fool you are.

    As for the United Kingdom, you obviously didn't read that page otherwise you would have noticed they're listed as our Ally and a security partner. Never mind the page lists them as a fellow NATO member.
    You’re for real mentally ill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    We don't have a military treaty with the Ukraine, but they are very much considered an ally.
    I wouldn’t call Ukraine an ally, more like a puppet we use. Ukraine does serve a strategic importance as a buffer against Russia which we need, but to call us an ally is a stretch.
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    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    https://us.yahoo.com/news/trump-prai...234001858.html

    Trump praises Putin's 'genius' incursion into Ukraine

    Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

    "This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."


    Riiight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    https://us.yahoo.com/news/trump-prai...234001858.html

    Trump praises Putin's 'genius' incursion into Ukraine

    Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

    "This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."


    Riiight.
    Sssh, Republicans are still trying to pretend Trump wasn't bought and paid for by Russia. This doesn't fit their narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    I wouldnÂ’t call Ukraine an ally, more like an acquaintance we use. Ukraine does serve a strategic importance as a buffer against Russia which we need, but to call us an ally is a stretch.
    Why do Democrats keep using that word "we" so loosely?

    That area of the world has been in a constant state of conflict since the Roman empire divided.

    "We" were essentially founded to escape that constant conflict. "We" are 5000 miles away from that conflict zone. "We" are not Europe. "We" have no business in the Ukraine. "We" have been in 20+ years of war because "We" keep forgetting that "We" are not Europe.

    The sooner we let the Brits, the Germans and the Russians settle their 1700 year old divorce the better everyone will be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    https://us.yahoo.com/news/trump-prai...234001858.html

    Trump praises Putin's 'genius' incursion into Ukraine

    Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

    "This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."


    Riiight.
    Trump is fucking hilarious.

    Putin is genius.

    Biden is already a lame duck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Sssh, Republicans are still trying to pretend Trump wasn't bought and paid for by Russia. This doesn't fit their narrative.


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    “It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
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