Michigan DA politicizing school shooting tragedy by charging parents

[Sighisoara]

If the news I read is correct, parents did some horrific parenting and might possibly be responsible. after PTA meeing with parents and the folks are like, NAAA YOU KEEP HIM, and left. then 20 min into the shooting, Mom texting him to not do it... writing on the wall.

I agree that the parents made some exceptionally poor choices. Based on the article I read, the principal did, too. Let’s say you’re the principal of this school who is charged with the welfare of all individuals on the campus. You have multiple employees raise concerns that a kid is making general, non-specific death threats and the kid is throwing red flags of a mental health problem at best or crisis at worst. It’s so concerning that you put the student with the school counselor (who may or may not be trained to handle this) and summon the parents to the school and tell them to get the kid into professional counseling within 48 hours. You’re going to let that kid remain on campus and return prior to getting with a professional?

Maybe I’m crazy, but that seems to be just as negligent.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

More will come out for sure, but shitty parents seem to be shitty parents and I'm actually for them getting some consequence.

[Parkbandit]

They did just go through a meeting with the principal a few minutes prior where the principal said their kid was drawing himself shooting other students.

I'm assuming the parents didn't think their son was actually going to shoot up his school but after the shooting started they probably came to that realization. If the DA manages to find some evidence to suggest otherwise then I think charging the parents makes perfect sense. As it is the DA is basically blaming the parents for not being clairvoyant while giving the school officials a pass even though as far as we know the school officials had the exact same information the parents did.

They had a problem kid that they obviously knew about his issues... and did nothing.

And you certainly don't go out and buy a gun when you have someone like that in the house.

I don't know if they will be convicted or not.. and I don't know about the laws in Michigan regarding the safeguarding of firearms, but let's not pretend these parents were caught by surprise by this shooting and that their kid was the triggerman.

[LOL BRIELUS]

There is definitely more here, sounds like it could be very compelling case. DA is not going to show all the cards right now. I'm guessing there's info that either establish the shooter was so homicidal that not securing a gun is just criminally negligent (invol manslaughter) or that the actually knew about the plans and they are potential actual accessories. Flight is indicia of guilt. Expect a defense of a bully who threatened the shooter, and constitutionalizing defense (2nd amendment, right to own, no law or duty to store in any particular manner)

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Side note.... I bought a sig sauer 365 and every second round jams while firing. I'm clearly pissed off at this, as I want to unload on any potential intruder. Turns out, I had a shitty clip with a weak spring that was causing all the issues. But if I didn't believe in practice and training, I'd have been fucked.

Solution? Sue Sig Sauer. O R buy a new mag and it worked just fine.

Hurray America.

[Shaps]

Side note.... I bought a sig sauer 365 and every second round jams while firing. I'm clearly pissed off at this, as I want to unload on any potential intruder. Turns out, I had a shitty clip with a weak spring that was causing all the issues. But if I didn't believe in practice and training, I'd have been fucked.

Solution? Sue Sig Sauer. O R buy a new mag and it worked just fine.

Hurray America.

Alternate plan.. it jams and you beat them senseless with a blunt object?

[Tgo01]

And you certainly don't go out and buy a gun when you have someone like that in the house.

That's what I'm saying. If they knew he had some mental problems then they shouldn't have had guns in the house that he could easily access.

The DA didn't mention any of that at all from the press briefing I saw her give though, she was blaming the parents solely because the kid claimed the gun was his and because they didn't bring him home that day and because the father had the audacity to realize one of his guns was missing and immediately alerted the police.

Maybe the DA has more evidence but it seems strange she mentioned all of this stuff that doesn't really mean anything other than to all of us who now have the benefit of hindsight and didn't bother to mention more incriminating evidence they possess.

[Tgo01]

or that the actually knew about the plans and they are potential actual accessories.

I mean I guess that's possible...but why? Right now from everything I have read it sure sounds like the shooter was being bullied at school and had some mental health problems. Seems kind of odd the parents would know about his plans to shoot up and school and were actually involved in it. But I suppose anything is possible.

[Sighisoara]

That's what I'm saying. If they knew he had some mental problems then they shouldn't have had guns in the house that he could easily access.

The DA didn't mention any of that at all from the press briefing I saw her give though, she was blaming the parents solely because the kid claimed the gun was his and because they didn't bring him home that day and because the father had the audacity to realize one of his guns was missing and immediately alerted the police.

Maybe the DA has more evidence but it seems strange she mentioned all of this stuff that doesn't really mean anything other than to all of us who now have the benefit of hindsight and didn't bother to mention more incriminating evidence they possess.

From what I read, there are some admissions of some dumbass choices the parents made on their Facebook pages. I find it hard to believe that the parents didn’t know there was a problem with the kid prior to being notified by the school the day before the shooting. Maybe they were totally oblivious to their kid. At minimum they should have put the guns under lock and key when they were notified by the school.

ETA: and kept their fucking kid at home.

[Tgo01]

From what I read, there are some admissions of some dumbass choices the parents made on their Facebook pages. I find it hard to believe that the parents didn’t know there was a problem with the kid prior to being notified by the school the day before the shooting. Maybe they were totally oblivious to their kid. At minimum they should have put the guns under lock and key when they were notified by the school.

From what I understand the meeting and shooting all happened the same day, I think even within an hour.