Taliban taking over Afghanistan

[Gelston]

The way to fix it is to rule China?

Nope. This was before the conquered China. They basically just slaughtered everyone that stood against them. To this day, they use the title of Khan in Afghanistan.

[Methais]

Nope. This was before the conquered China. They basically just slaughtered everyone that stood against them. To this day, they use the title of Khan in Afghanistan.

Ah ok.

So they did this, under the direction of their leader, Bob Genghis Khan:

[Seran]

What are your solutions?

Ignoring the centuries before it, do you really believe that after the shitshow of the past 20 years that that place is fixable? Especially when it's inhabited by people who don't want to be "fixed" to begin with?

Beyond the fact I've said consistently for years we've should have never been there in the first place? You get the hell out, you somehow manage to reaquire all of the tens of billions in equipment now being used by the Taliban and short of that, you use air assaults to destroy it.

We never belonged in Afghanistan. Using 9/11 as a pretext for invading and occupying a country was never solid. Our country tried to rebuild a failed nation, slapping steel over what was paper machete and expecting the petty warlords an despots to somehow make a democratic government? Yeah, right. They're enjoying the millions in aid stolen from government coffers.

Sorry, not sorry but this isn't Serbia, Darfur or one of a dozen African countries where genocide occurring. We had not business getting involved in their government and the end result is more of the same. Money and equipment in the hands of our enemies.

[Seran]

“One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country.”

Snipe all you want, but this is right. Whether it was Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden this was the right call to make. $1 trillion spent trying to prop up a country which failed anyway. Human Rights? Sure, but not at the cost we paid

[Tgo01]

“One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country.”

Snipe all you want, but this is right. Whether it was Bush, Obama, Trump or Biden this was the right call to make. $1 trillion spent trying to prop up a country which failed anyway. Human Rights? Sure, but not at the cost we paid

I already quoted that and said Biden was right and yet you’re still on my nuts.

I just want Biden to now own his decision and what he’s saying rather than trying to blame Trump for somehow forcing him to do this. He’s a coward which is why you like him.

[Shaps]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESONG2xBMA

Might seem small, but you know you're in trouble when CNN anchors report and refer to the President as "Mr. Biden"... multiple times.

As for what Biden said, it was never about leaving - it was about how it was done. And how this has happened, is all at his feet... regardless of who he wants to blame.

Three more years of this jackass in office - who the fuck knows what shit is going to look like.

Interestingly, Harris has been MIA for what now... two, three weeks?

[drauz]

Ah ok.

So they did this, under the direction of their leader, Bob Genghis Khan:

[Methais]

Beyond the fact I've said consistently for years we've should have never been there in the first place? You get the hell out, you somehow manage to reaquire all of the tens of billions in equipment now being used by the Taliban and short of that, you use air assaults to destroy it.

We never belonged in Afghanistan. Using 9/11 as a pretext for invading and occupying a country was never solid. Our country tried to rebuild a failed nation, slapping steel over what was paper machete and expecting the petty warlords an despots to somehow make a democratic government? Yeah, right. They're enjoying the millions in aid stolen from government coffers.

Sorry, not sorry but this isn't Serbia, Darfur or one of a dozen African countries where genocide occurring. We had not business getting involved in their government and the end result is more of the same. Money and equipment in the hands of our enemies.

[Tgo01]

As for what Biden said, it was never about leaving - it was about how it was done. And how this has happened, is all at his feet... regardless of who he wants to blame.

That's what gets me about the people who say "Well Trump wanted us to leave even sooner!!111!!"

Yes I think we should have left that shithole years ago, but something tells me Trump would have done it much differently. It might still have been a shitshow, but I bet Trump wouldn't have left our embassy and citizens there like "LOL! The Afghan government has this! We're fine!" And when the Taliban started advancing on Kabul he probably would have sent in airstrikes to keep them back and increased troop presence until the withdrawal was completed.

It's like Biden had no backup plan for this worst case scenario, instead he fully believed the Afghan army would maintain control of the country for years and there was nothing to worry about, and now he just looks like an incompetent idiot, because that's what he is.

[Neveragain]

Human Rights?

The idea that the west can bring human rights to the east is a broken idea that has cost millions of lives, it's secular Manifest Destiny.