Age of Marijuana Use and Psychosis

[Bhaalizmo]

Perhaps Latrin should provide some more detailed information then, like a source.

You guys use this argument a lot around here. As if not providing a source makes it untrue. It doesn't. Most of the time it appears that you just want a source provided so you can attempt to discredit the source as part of your rebuttal. It's disingenuous.

Law Enforcement in the US is built on the framework of slave patrols. However much we try to build a better policing system through policies and reforms, that will still always remain true. Here, I'll even provide you with a source so that you can argue against it as if it's all fiction. https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook...rican-policing

In addition to that unforgettable fact above, in modern times law enforcement or really any job that provides the employee with force and authority as part of their job (Prison guards, military, policing, etc) is inherently attractive to the type of person that will abuse it. I'm not saying that the only people that choose to be law enforcement are racists, or violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoints. No, rather what I am saying is that those who are racist, violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoint are drawn like bees to honey when it comes to jobs in law enforcement. Combine that with a "look the other way" and "code of silence" policies many police adopt off the books with regards to seeing their co-workers break rules and laws, and what you've got is a fine institution primed to trample on targets of choice with impunity.

I feel that this is common knowledge, and that people who act as if it isn't are either for it or just uninformed. Change my mind.

That's quite a strong assumption you are making, that you actually have a mind.

This, from the guy who couldn't be bothered to even capitalize the first letter of his username. The guy who makes no attempt to refute an intelligent argument and instead just goes low. Good job Bubba. You did it. You acted like a dumb sumbitch.

Edited to add: Your obvious refusal to even acknowledge the above makes you for it. In my mind if nothing else. Go ahead. Make another mind joke.

[Luntz]

[Latrinsorm]

This might be the most boomer sounding thing I've ever heard you say.

oh yeah well if i wasn't "hip" then how would i know who let the dogs out? huh? ROTFL

[Latrinsorm]

Colorado is an extremely white state though. So you're probably wrong again, like you usually are when you talk about weed. Although I would never question your knowledge when it comes to cold cuts, now that you're a big boy and all. So I'm still proud of you.

the population of Colorado is 5.8 million, which when multiplied by your stated percentages means there are hundreds of thousands of Black Coloradans, more than enough to cover the thousands of marihuana arrests made each year

there's also the fact that a major Colorado police department has paid out tens of thousands of dollars for being racist and had their chief publicly admit they're racist

as always with you, it would have taken 10 seconds of googling to find out your guess was unequivocally wrong, and even after seeing the indisputable evidence you're still going to be pretty sure you're right

and so they'll keep on murdering people of color. why wouldn't they? as long as people like you have their back, they'll never face consequences for it

[Seran]

You guys use this argument a lot around here. As if not providing a source makes it untrue. It doesn't. Most of the time it appears that you just want a source provided so you can attempt to discredit the source as part of your rebuttal. It's disingenuous.

Law Enforcement in the US is built on the framework of slave patrols. However much we try to build a better policing system through policies and reforms, that will still always remain true. Here, I'll even provide you with a source so that you can argue against it as if it's all fiction. https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook...rican-policing

In addition to that unforgettable fact above, in modern times law enforcement or really any job that provides the employee with force and authority as part of their job (Prison guards, military, policing, etc) is inherently attractive to the type of person that will abuse it. I'm not saying that the only people that choose to be law enforcement are racists, or violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoints. No, rather what I am saying is that those who are racist, violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoint are drawn like bees to honey when it comes to jobs in law enforcement. Combine that with a "look the other way" and "code of silence" policies many police adopt off the books with regards to seeing their co-workers break rules and laws, and what you've got is a fine institution primed to trample on targets of choice with impunity.

I feel that this is common knowledge, and that people who act as if it isn't are either for it or just uninformed. Change my mind.



This, from the guy who couldn't be bothered to even capitalize the first letter of his username. The guy who makes no attempt to refute an intelligent argument and instead just goes low. Good job Bubba. You did it. You acted like a dumb sumbitch.

Edited to add: Your obvious refusal to even acknowledge the above makes you for it. In my mind if nothing else. Go ahead. Make another mind joke.

Christ on a cracker that professor piled a whole load of misinformation into what's literally a memo expounding on their bias against law enforcement.

For society to exist, there must be a common set of beliefs, tenants or rules to help guide members of that society to peaceably coincide. Archeological studies have traced this back to groups predating modern homo sapiens. This is a concept predating slavery.

Taking a step back, even biological studies of animal herds and groupings show a rudimentary enforcement of boundaries enforced collectively, whereupon members who don't conform are cast out from group protection.

Fast forwarding to modern days, humanity has collectively formed nations which are organized under collectively decided sets of rules or laws. Individuals living outside of those boundaries (and are caught doing so) face a prescribed punishment or in some countries, summary judgment by the 'authority'. These laws a mutable to the extent that as beliefs change, as promoters of change or reform obtain influence and sway the majority of society, those laws are formally changed or the leaders responsible for enforcement of the outdated laws choose to not enforce them. But collectively, each of these countries possesses either a formalized body responsible for ensuring adherence to laws, or their societies unfortunately condone summary judgment.

Now, slavery is repugnant. Wrong. Outlawed. Taboo. The idea of forcibly bonding another, without compensation or benefit for the enrichment of another (or collective) is a concept almost universally held to be verboten on our planet. But for our country this has only been the case for the last hundred and fifty years, give or take the State. This means that there are second, third and fourth generations whom still disagree with the outlaw of slavery or had ancestors who passed down this antagonism. Yes, sometimes these people are in positions of authority or strive for positions of authority, however this doesn't change the majority belief that their wish for reversion 'to the good ole days' is held as morally repugnant to the majorly of our country.

What does this have to do with law enforcement? Simply put, our country no longer practices the slavery of a hundred and fifty years ago and there are no laws being enforced which propagate that practice. Yes, the usage of prisoners who are made to provide benefit to society encroaches, but does not wholly revert to true slavery. It's worth noting that even this practice is now being examined.

Racism still exists in our country and some would abuse the authority invested in them to practice an unequal enforcement of our societies laws benefitting one ethnicity over another. When this is found, proven and tried, those involved are punished accordingly. Why? Because our society's beliefs evolved to the point where discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or skin color is illegal. This is why police reform is so important, people of the old school mindset should not be the enforcers of our collectively chosen laws. This rings true to your central point that people who wish promote an agenda seek power and authority.

At the end of the day, law enforcement is required for a society to exist and grow. Laws will inevitably change as the beliefs of the society evolve, but the need to have enforcers and arbiters of that collective will will not change for humanity. Anyone who thinks laws and law enforcement are needed have never experienced anarchy or are proponents of the destruction of society.

[caelric]

I'm shocked, but Seran said it much, much better than I could. Bottom line: some means of enforcing laws is necessary. Sure, there are some problems that come along with individuals having power over other individuals, but to function as a society, we need this, but with strict controls on them to prevent abuses of power.

Right now, we have some problems with law enforcement abusing power. More problems than some would admit, much less problems than others would admit. We need to fix these problems without totally dismantling law enforcement.

[Gelston]

oh yeah well if i wasn't "hip" then how would i know who let the dogs out? huh? ROTFL

That song is about ugly women at the club.

[Methais]

You guys use this argument a lot around here. As if not providing a source makes it untrue. It doesn't. Most of the time it appears that you just want a source provided so you can attempt to discredit the source as part of your rebuttal. It's disingenuous.

It's funny because you say that as if people on both sides here don't do that constantly. Pretty sure the leftists here are way worse about that. Unless it's an anonymous source that they agree with, then it's gospel and becomes racist to ask for a source.

Either way, that's not what I was asking for a source for. I just wanted to see some actual numbers, and what exactly cops are doing in Colorado in regards to weed and black people with a little more detail than "they're arresting people and are racist!" like Latrin's post, but I'm really not interested in it enough to go digging for it myself. And Latrin is a bit of a drama queen who's afraid of everything too and buys into at least some of the whole Reefer Madness thing, so there's also that.

Law Enforcement in the US is built on the framework of slave patrols. However much we try to build a better policing system through policies and reforms, that will still always remain true. Here, I'll even provide you with a source so that you can argue against it as if it's all fiction. https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook...rican-policing

I'm too lazy to read through that, but I doubt it has anything to do with what I was asking from Latrin. Everyone knows the history of slavery and cops being dicks. But woke points for you posting a link about it anyway, or something.

In addition to that unforgettable fact above, in modern times law enforcement or really any job that provides the employee with force and authority as part of their job (Prison guards, military, policing, etc) is inherently attractive to the type of person that will abuse it. I'm not saying that the only people that choose to be law enforcement are racists, or violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoints. No, rather what I am saying is that those who are racist, violent, or prone to commit crimes in support of their viewpoint are drawn like bees to honey when it comes to jobs in law enforcement. Combine that with a "look the other way" and "code of silence" policies many police adopt off the books with regards to seeing their co-workers break rules and laws, and what you've got is a fine institution primed to trample on targets of choice with impunity.

I'm not saying that's untrue either. Too many cops are out there projecting their small dick energy on innocent people.

I feel that this is common knowledge, and that people who act as if it isn't are either for it or just uninformed. Change my mind.

Thanks for the history lesson that was already known I guess? Let me know when you have some info on these arrests in Colorado though. Seems like it might be an interesting read.

[Methais]

as always with you, it would have taken 10 seconds of googling to find out your guess was unequivocally wrong, and even after seeing the indisputable evidence you're still going to be pretty sure you're right

Know what else most people do when they make a post claiming something? They take 10 seconds to CTRL+V the link. Like if I posted something about how to buy cold cuts, I would have included a link with it.

I'm not interested in it enough to go googling it and hope what I click on just happens to be exactly what you're referring to, like that one link from 2018 you posted, and then another from August of 2020.

Completely related: What prevented you from googling how to buy cold cuts like a big boy before 2020 though?

TLDR: Nobody is disputing that racist dickhead cops are a problem in most places to some degree or another.

Feel free to explain how I "Have their back" though. I'm generally not a fan of cops for the most part, especially when it comes to victimless "crimes" like weed, but I get why they're still necessary. They just need to stop policing bullshit that doesn't matter like weed and other victimless crimes. Not that you'd know anything about that, because your existence exists 99% on paper and in spreadsheets and not in the actual real world.

You thinking I'm some Blue Lives Matter fanatic because I don't vote democrat is kinda hilarious though. And not surprising at all, coming from you.

That song is about ugly women at the club.

As if Latrin's ever been to a club. He'd shit his pants.

[Methais]

I'm shocked, but Seran said it much, much better than I could. Bottom line: some means of enforcing laws is necessary. Sure, there are some problems that come along with individuals having power over other individuals, but to function as a society, we need this, but with strict controls on them to prevent abuses of power.

Right now, we have some problems with law enforcement abusing power. More problems than some would admit, much less problems than others would admit. We need to fix these problems without totally dismantling law enforcement.

There are too many Andraste cops out there.