Portland.

[Alfster]

And no, what Trump is doing is nothing even remotely close to martial law if that is what you are getting at.

1) Trump's not doing it
2) DHS officials are admitting they're arresting people before a crime is committed, which is against the constitution.

If you don't see the problem with this approach, then you're not as conservative as you claim.

[drauz]

Do you have stats saying democratic cities aren't failing, because you should publish them if you do.

What metric should we judge them by, murders per capita?

[Parkbandit]

Derp, derp, yellow three.

leifastagsweed trying to count to 10.

Also, this is a real life clip of why she's not allowed to use crayons (because they are too advanced):

[~Rocktar~]

1) Trump's not doing it
2) DHS officials are admitting they're arresting people before a crime is committed, which is against the constitution.

If you don't see the problem with this approach, then you're not as conservative as you claim.

First, your understanding of being detained and so on is deeply flawed. Second, prove it.

[leifastagsweed]

In general I can see how martial law might be needed sometimes, of course it should require some very serious circumstances.

And no, what Trump is doing is nothing even remotely close to martial law if that is what you are getting at.

I wasn't getting at, but you went there. Okay....

What circumstances, *hypothetically*, would be serious enough for you to be taken off the street in an unmarked car by men in black?

[Tgo01]

1)2) DHS officials are admitting they're arresting people before a crime is committed, which is against the constitution.

Link?

[Tgo01]

I wasn't getting at

Sure you weren’t.

What circumstances, *hypothetically*, would be serious enough for you to be taken off the street in an unmarked car by men in black?

What’s happening in Portland is just normal arrests. The fact that they are in an unmarked car means exactly nothing. Law enforcement don’t have to drive around in police cars.

Your understanding of what martial law is seems to be extremely limited. I’m guessing you read from Pelosi or Don Lemon that this is what martial law is so that’s your only education on the subject.

[FlayedAngel]

That's the thing; the same group that has watered down the word to mean nothing are also the ones who think every accusation of racism should not only be believed at face value (as long as it comes from this same group) but they also want the consequences to remain the same. I wouldn't care about these accusations if they didn't have a real world impact.

I didn't even mention a group so how am I stereotyping anyone?

What "group" are you referring to here?

But the idea of implicit bias is you're not aware you're doing it.

So you know you don't have any racist tendencies, but someone else is going to come along and say you do have racist tendencies you just don't know you're doing it, this person is then going to point out all of your racist tendencies, and by pointing them out you are now aware of your previously unknown racist tendencies and now you can fix these racist tendencies? Or perhaps it's all just bullshit. I'm going with the latter.

I've never suggested that anyone is required to have a "come to Jesus" moment just because someone calls them a racist. What I said was that receiving critical feedback from others is part of the way we improve ourselves as people, that includes taking a genuine hard look at our cognitive blindspots -- by definition, those flaws we aren't able to perceive in our own thinking. This process involves becoming aware of them, yes; that is, in fact, what I described prior.

It's not reductive, that is literally the definition of the word.

Racist is a binary thing, just like the state of being pregnant.

Explain to me how someone is just "a little bit" racist compared to someone who is "a lot" racist. I of course mean the traditional use of the word racist, not the modern usage of the word where saying "All Lives Matter" or being against illegal immigration are examples of "racist" behavior.

"Racist" in the colloquial sense, or in the sense of participation (either knowingly or not) in racism as an institution. You, yourself, were caviling about over-usage lessening the impact of the word, which would indicate at least an acknowledgement of degrees of conceptual application. Reducing the label of "racist" to something one either is or isn't would imply that there is a singular definition, eg. pregnancy (the state of gestation) -- it isn't that simple, that's why I said that line of reasoning was reductive.

1. Belief that there are distinct human races with inherent differences which determine their abilities, and generally that some are superior and others inferior.
2. The policies, practices, or systems (e.g. government or political) promoting this belief or promoting the dominance of one or more races over others.
3. Prejudice or discrimination based upon race or ethnicity; (countable) an action of such discrimination.

And again, verbatim: Except that your argument there completely disregards any scope or context, which is important, and downplays the complexity of the social issue as a whole; your alleged "fatigue" of the word is only one element, which is its use (or its debatable overuse) as a pejorative. The problem is that if someone observes casual racism in someone else -- even if that someone is devoid of any malicious intent -- such is often treated by both parties (the accused and the accuser) as having the same connotations as the full-blown KKK-imbrued usage of the word. There aren't different words for different "degrees" of racist, which is unfortunate... that's why context matters.

To be fair, "different degrees of racism" (not racist) would have been a better fit.

[FlayedAngel]

It's pretty amazing how I have shown video after video after video of rioters in Portland breaking all sorts of laws and you still have dipshits like Bhaalizmo and Alfter insist no laws are being broken and Trump sending officers to restore law and order is "tyrannical."

You guys then have the audacity to claim you care about facts.

Why can't you guys be honest? You don't care how many people die, you don't care how many people get hurt, you don't care how much property is destroyed, just as long as it makes Trump look bad. Just say it. Be honest. You can do it. I believe in you.

That's weird. I see 15 black people shot while attending a funeral and I say "Enough is enough! Do something about black people being gunned down!"

You look at that and say "I need more information, I'm still leaning towards Trump being an authoritarian asshole."

And somehow you're making the argument that I'm the racist? No, no, no. Once again you prove you don't care about facts. You don't care about black lives. Your entire life, your entire reason for existing, is to hate Trump and everything he does.

Sad, pathetic little man.

Dude... are you okay??

I'm genuinely asking.

[Tgo01]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status...258628097?s=20

The mostly peaceful protesters in Portland tried setting the federal courthouse on fire last night.