George Floyd killing and the aftermath

[Stolis]

People who were actually at that protest, disagree and say tear gas was indeed used.

Just because smoke makes you cough and possibly your eyes burn, does not make it tear gas. Much like seasonal allergies does not mean I have COVID-19. Tear gas is awful. Having been told (and watched to my laughter) friends going through Academy getting pepper sprayed, there's no way in hell they're going to throw a canister of that out and then run into it with no sort of protection from it. It was smoke. It's been said by the police there and those reporting on it that no, tear gas was not used. Smoke, and pepper bullets.

[Seran]

Just because smoke makes you cough and possibly your eyes burn, does not make it tear gas. Much like seasonal allergies does not mean I have COVID-19. Tear gas is awful. Having been told (and watched to my laughter) friends going through Academy getting pepper sprayed, there's no way in hell they're going to throw a canister of that out and then run into it with no sort of protection from it. It was smoke. It's been said by the police there and those reporting on it that no, tear gas was not used. Smoke, and pepper bullets.

A chemical agent in gaseous form was used on protesters prior to Trump's church photo op. This gas, which cause sufferers eyes to water (tear) up was used at the request of William Barr. But since no actual agent branded "tear gas" was used on protestors, let's all get hung up on the type of lachrymator agent used in order to distract from the fact is fucking happened at all.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...0-3f7d908139dd

[Parkbandit]

The reality is that the econony had been on a 9 year continual growth streak that started while Biden was in office.

Trump had nothing to do with the economy- you were crediting him for the growth while were still on an Obama administration budget. All he did was *not* veto the GOP tax bill- which never actually produced any significant long term benefits to the economy. His administration has done very little as far as writing legislation.

I'd say this literally proves you know absolutely nothing about economics.. but then you would just come back and say you have a PhD in Economics.. or taught a class in Economics.. or saved someone from a burning building as you were going to an Economics 101 class... so, nevermind...

[Tgo01]

A chemical agent in gaseous form was used on protesters prior to Trump's church photo op. This gas, which cause sufferers eyes to water (tear) up was used at the request of William Barr. But since no actual agent branded "tear gas" was used on protestors, let's all get hung up on the type of lachrymator agent used in order to distract from the fact is fucking happened at all.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...0-3f7d908139dd

You sound like Jim Acosta now.

"Tear gas was used!!!"
"No, it wasn't."
"Well some sort of chemical agent was used!!!"
"Yes, but it wasn't tear gas."
"What difference does it make?!?!??!"

It makes a huge fucking difference. "Chemical" agent can mean anything from smoke canisters to sarin gas. Guess what? They used smoke.

[Blazar]

You sound like Jim Acosta now.

"Tear gas was used!!!"
"No, it wasn't."
"Well some sort of chemical agent was used!!!"
"Yes, but it wasn't tear gas."
"What difference does it make?!?!??!"

It makes a huge fucking difference. "Chemical" agent can mean anything from smoke canisters to sarin gas. Guess what? They used smoke.

If you actually read the link in the post you quoted, it pretty clearly states that it wasn't smoke. They shot OC cannnisters, picked up from the street after being used. Willful ignorance. The information is right there, and you can't really dispute it. No comment from the police department on how many they shot at the crowd, yet if they didn't shoot OC cannisters that would be an easy answer.

PB... I'm not upset at all. I'm saddened that people can really be so willfully ignorant about things. I'll just keep hoping that people will one day realize that compromise and understanding will get us a whole lot farther than hostility, hatred, and willful ignorance. You're not a stupid person, I can admit that, but you definitely have a lot of work to do in the personal growth area. Hopefully, you'll get there some day.

[Seran]

You sound like Jim Acosta now.

"Tear gas was used!!!"
"No, it wasn't."
"Well some sort of chemical agent was used!!!"
"Yes, but it wasn't tear gas."
"What difference does it make?!?!??!"

It makes a huge fucking difference. "Chemical" agent can mean anything from smoke canisters to sarin gas. Guess what? They used smoke.

Guess what, William Bar gassed protesters with chemical dispersants, no smoke, eye irritants. Smoke is what is blown up your ass whenever you're listening to Hannity.

[Tgo01]

If you actually read the link in the post you quoted, it pretty clearly states that it wasn't smoke. They shot OC cannnisters, picked up from the street after being used. Willful ignorance. The information is right there, and you can't really dispute it. No comment from the police department on how many they shot at the crowd, yet if they didn't shoot OC cannisters that would be an easy answer

Because someone posts a pic of a canister we are just assuming they are telling the truth that they picked it up off the street?

Just so we're clear we are suggesting police fired tear gas then shortly afterward rushed into the area sans gas masks, then a few minutes later all of the tear gas had dispersed and Trump walked through the area?

Yeah okay.

Are we also just saying the police are flat out liars and no one was throwing frozen water bottles or glass bottles at them?

Of course we're saying that because like I've been saying this is all political now.

"Pigs bad! Innocent protesters good!"

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Time4fun in several posts exposed how extremely racist it is. Like, more than even that white dude who thought he was a skinhead or nazi sympathizer or white supremist was from WAY back in the day. Goddamn I can't remember his name. He always posted pictures of himself in a wifebeater.

Anyway, T4F not only called a poster racist after he simply said the rioting was offensive, it then said based on his WRITINGS it could discern he was black. Liberal virtue signaling racists are the WORST type of racist. Nice job T4F for winning.

[Blazar]

Because someone posts a pic of a canister we are just assuming they are telling the truth that they picked it up off the street?

Just so we're clear we are suggesting police fired tear gas/pepper spray then shortly afterward rushed into the area sans gas masks, then a few minutes later all of the tear gas/pepper spray had dispersed and Trump walked through the area?

Yeah okay.

Are we also just saying the police are flat out liars and no one was throwing frozen war bottles or glass bottles at them?

Of course we're saying that because like I've been saying this is all political now.

"Pigs bad! Innocent protesters good!"

I didn't say cops were bad. There are definitely some bad cops, but I have friends that are cops and have plenty of respect for some law enforcement, but also understand that the human element creates a lot of diversity within every group. They are being put into a very dangerous situation, so I can also understand their desire to protect themselves. Just like there are some bad protesters, taking advantage of a bad situation for their own personal gain. I don't condone that either, nor do I condone violence for any reason. Rioting isn't going to solve anything. Peaceful protest might get us there, but ultimately we need to speak with our votes and get officials in office that will do the right thing. I definitely don't agree with the rioting or the looting, all they are doing is hurting themselves, shutting down their own grocery stores and causing damage to their own friends and family. And you really shouldn't discount the entire protest because some opportunistic people are taking advantage of the situation.

And yeah, in an outdoor environment, gasses do dissipate pretty quickly if there's even a slight breeze. So firing a canister, especially if the breeze is carrying the gas away from you, and then running in a few minutes later in full riot gear probably wouldn't result in issues for the police force. Also consider that perhaps they shot tear gas in one direction, and rushed another, or shot it in the back of the crowd? I wasn't there so I don't know for sure, but I can definitely see that there are possibilities here for it to have happened. I also wouldn't think that a reporter would plant canisters and make that up, but I also don't wear a tin foil hat and think that everyone has some agenda to fulfill either. And if it turns out to be the case, I'm sure the truth will come out soon enough and we'll know, and I'll gladly learn my lesson. Some people might actually be just trying to do their jobs and have integrity. If you believe that everyone with any type of liberal views have no integrity and will lie and make things up to further their own agenda at any time, I really have to question where you get that idea from. I'd really hate to see the world that way, seems miserable. There's a better way, I promise.

[Tgo01]

And yeah, in an outdoor environment, gasses do dissipate pretty quickly if there's even a slight breeze. So firing a canister, especially if the breeze is carrying the gas away from you, and then running in a few minutes later in full riot gear probably wouldn't result in issues for the police force.

Okay so you are suggesting cops deployed tear gas without wearing gas masks.

I also wouldn't think that a reporter would plant canisters and make that up

Why not? Reporters have been flat out lying for years now. Just look at this stupid story we're talking about right here. Story after story after story for 24 hours all proclaiming "Police use tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful protesters!" Then they finally bothered to get around to asking the police THE NEXT DAY what they used and the police say no tear gas or rubber bullets.