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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    It's called listening and learning. It's not pretending- it's taking the message that was communicated to you and helping to amplify it. It's on the "literally the least you can do" ally list. Silencing that instead of engaging with it doesn't help black people in this country.
    https://twitter.com/OsigahK/status/1...932124160?s=20

    Honestly this video is like the perfect visualization of time4fun.

    "I know what it's like to be black! Really I do! Look how that officer just treated me!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    And you can honestly say you’re not bias?
    I don't know how many times I can say this, I might as well just make it my sig now.

    Yes my politics are biased. I am perfectly comfortable admitting this. Does this mean I'm going to automatically take the conservative's side and denounce the Democrat's side in each and every single instance? No. But I have a set of beliefs and principals and yes they are going to sway my decision when it comes to politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Possibly. Though it is difficult to imagine that officer doing that to a white man.

    And ultimately that's what this is about. It's not about whether or not that particular police officer was intentionally trying to attack someone because they were black. It's about a system that provides so much cover and impunity that the police officers involved in the situation clearly didn't think they had anything to fear. They could kill an unarmed black man in public, surrounded by witnesses, and there was nothing to worry about.

    The privilege that comes with not being black in this situation, is that it allows people- if they so choose- to treat Floyd's murder as an isolated, independent incident.

    The reality of being black in this country is that you know better. It's the latest in a lifetime of reminders that your life has less value, institutionally speaking, than those of your fellow Americans who happen to have a different skin color. That plays out with the police, it plays out with the Death Penalty, and it's playing out with COVID. (to name 3 of about a million examples).
    I think its more of a problem with police in general, they have way to much power and not enough oversight. They can end lives with a word. I don't care if someone is yelling the most vile shit in their face, they need to take it and act professional. If a cashier at Target or wherever else can, they better be able to. They've gone to long without enough accountability.
    Last edited by drauz; 06-03-2020 at 02:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    I think its more of a problem with police in general, they have way to much power and not enough oversight. They can end lives with a word. I don't care if someone is yelling the most vile shit in their face, they need to take it and act professional. If a cashier at Target or wherever else can, they better be able to. They've gone to long without enough accountability.
    The big problem is police unions that give officers like 20 second chances before they can maybe, possibly be assigned to desk duty for 2 weeks.

    But Democrats can't go after unions because that's a major source of their support so they play lip service to both unions and the people who want more police accountability so they can continue staying in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    It's called listening and learning. It's not pretending- it's taking the message that was communicated to you and helping to amplify it. It's on the "literally the least you can do" ally list. Silencing that instead of engaging with it doesn't help black people in this country.

    And growing up in a biracial family with siblings whose skin is much darker than mine and watching them navigate the world around them and seeing how differently it treated me vs them....let's just say that, while I will never understand what it means to be black in America or even what it means to be my siblings and other family members on that side, the issue of institutionalized racism in this country is neither novel nor hypothetical for me.


    At least you're admitting to pretending to understand the life of a black person in America. Our biggest enemy is what's happening right now. The "leaders" of America's black community are thugs, crooks, and charlatans. There is no handicap for blacks if you do not allow it. The retired black St. Louis police captain who died last night protecting his friend's store from looters understood that. Glorifying an isolated incident (Yes it wasn't the first) to spawn any racist rhetoric is bullshit.

    At the end of the day, this is a distraction and our rights are once again being diminished.

    There is a vast majority of blacks who want no part of this on either side of the fence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hleef View Post
    At least you're admitting to pretending to understand the life of a black person in America. Our biggest enemy is what's happening right now. The "leaders" of America's black community are thugs, crooks, and charlatans. There is no handicap for blacks if you do not allow it. The retired black St. Louis police captain who died last night protecting his friend's store from looters understood that. Glorifying an isolated incident (Yes it wasn't the first) to spawn any racist rhetoric is bullshit.

    At the end of the day, this is a distraction and our rights are once again being diminished.

    There is a vast majority of blacks who want no part of this on either side of the fence.
    Wow that took an incredibly racist turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Wow that took an incredibly racist turn.
    Here's where the Democrat tries to instantly shut down any and all discussion by calling the other person racist.

    Next up! Watch time4fun bring out the sexist card or maybe even the homophobic card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Wow that took an incredibly racist turn.
    I am black. Guilty white people glow in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    I think its more of a problem with police in general, they have way to much power and not enough oversight. They can end lives with a word. I don't care if someone is yelling the most vile shit in their face, they need to take it and act professional. If a cashier at Target or wherever else can, they better be able to. They've gone to long without enough accountability.
    I agree that's a core issue here. Ultimately it's the alchemy of that with institutional racism that have created the kind of horror show we're seeing. The point is that the lack of oversight and accountability is a problem for everyone, but it disproportionately affects black (particularly male) Americans.

    How many times have we heard "Well I thought he had a gun!" as a justification for shooting an unarmed black man?

    How many times in the last few months have we watched the police keep a respectful distance as crowds of white men armed with semi-automatic weapons, screaming aggressively at- and even threatening- those same police officers and elected officials?

    That's more than just the sum of the "lack of oversight and accountability" parts.
    Last edited by time4fun; 06-03-2020 at 02:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    "Well I thought we had a gun!"
    Police typically do have guns.

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