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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    You spelled retarded wrong.
    You’re right, I did. Let me fix it.

    It was a PB post.

    My fault, won’t happen again.
    Last edited by Solkern; 05-30-2020 at 05:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    The Constitution is not the Declaration of Independence. (I'm not at all surprised that you don't know this)
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    "That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government." ~ The Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Why does it go by federal funding as a share of state revenue? So even if two states received the exact same amount of 100 million dollars in federal funding the "blue" state would receive a lower federal dependence funding score because their federal budget is 10 billion dollars while a red state would receive a higher score because their state funding is 1 billion dollars.
    Because a state with a population in the tens of millions has greater expenditures of resources than a state with a population in the hundreds of thousands. California, with it's massive amounts of land, well paved highways and until the coronavirus, balanced budget, is the perfect example of how a higher minimum wage and standard of living contributes to the strength of the economy.

    It's funny that MS got brought up by another misinformation specialist as somehow being a leader in it's lack of homelessness. I mean really, more than two thirds of it's budget comes from Federal grants and allotments. The fact they can stick everyone in a tin can trailer in the middle of a swamp and forgetting them isn't an example of progress, it's the antithesis of progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Because a state with a population in the tens of millions has greater expenditures of resources than a state with a population in the hundreds of thousands. California, with it's massive amounts of land, well paved highways and until the coronavirus, balanced budget, is the perfect example of how a higher minimum wage and standard of living contributes to the strength of the economy.
    That doesn't have a single thing to do with what I just said.

    If BOTH states are receiving the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF FEDERAL DOLLARS the "red" state in my scenario would be considered more dependent on federal dollars than the "blue" state.

    Why do you hate common sense and basic logic so much?

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    Reza Aslan, who used to work for CNN and is a noted piece of shit who called for violence against the Covington kids, had this to say:

    White Supremacists=Trump Supporters. These are Trump supporters burning and looting.
    https://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status...638670848?s=20

    Yes that's right, the rioters have gone from "misunderstood members of the black community who have run out of options" to "violent racist thugs who are supporters of Trump" in less than 24 hours. It's quite impressive really.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 05-30-2020 at 06:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    That doesn't have a single thing to do with what I just said.

    If BOTH states are receiving the EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF FEDERAL DOLLARS the "red" state in my scenario would be considered more dependent on federal dollars than the "blue" state.

    Why do you hate common sense and basic logic so much?
    No fuckface, that makes absolutely no sense. You're hypnotized by the number, when it has no correlation whatsoever on dependence. California, receives a fraction per capita of federal money than almost every single red state. Yet with it's robust economy, California residents contribute more than 200B in Federal withholdings. You're trying to demonize large blue states and as usual are doing so completely leaving out the relevant facts or nuance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    No fuckface, that makes absolutely no sense. You're hypnotized by the number, when it has no correlation whatsoever on dependence. California, receives a fraction per capita of federal money than almost every single red state. Yet with it's robust economy, California residents contribute more than 200B in Federal withholdings. You're trying to demonize large blue states and as usual are doing so completely leaving out the relevant facts or nuance.
    You clearly didn't read nor understand the methodology that is mentioned at the bottom of Solkern's link:

    Federal Funding as a Share of State Revenue: Full Weight (~50.00 Points)

    The scoring is out of a total of 100 so half the score is determined by federal funding as a share of state revenue. So again if both a blue state and a red state receive 100 million dollars each but the blue state just happens to be much larger and have a much larger economy and thus receives more tax revenue then the blue state is considered "less dependent" on federal dollars even though both states are receiving the exact amount of federal dollars.

    Like I said these kinds of comparisons can so easily be manipulated to arrive to any conclusion the authors want. If I really felt like it I could manipulate the data in such a way to make red states on average appear to be much less dependent on federal dollars compared to blue states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You clearly didn't read nor understand the methodology that is mentioned at the bottom of Solkern's link:

    Federal Funding as a Share of State Revenue: Full Weight (~50.00 Points)

    The scoring is out of a total of 100 so half the score is determined by federal funding as a share of state revenue. So again if both a blue state and a red state receive 100 million dollars each but the blue state just happens to be much larger and have a much larger economy and thus receives more tax revenue then the blue state is considered "less dependent" on federal dollars even though both states are receiving the exact amount of federal dollars.

    Like I said these kinds of comparisons can so easily be manipulated to arrive to any conclusion the authors want. If I really felt like it I could manipulate the data in such a way to make red states on average appear to be much less dependent on federal dollars compared to blue states.
    Oh, I perfectly understood it, but I'm exasperated by your implication of bias on part of it's methodology. That is how comparative analysis works in economics. You set the objective, ie compare dependency on the federal government and you input the relevant data factors to populate your analysis. What is more relevant to ascertaining federal independence that factoring in how much federal funding is received compared to it's budget. Would it have been more to your liking if the per capita number of god-fearing Christians were factored into the methodology? Square footage of gun stores compared to abortion clinics?

    Yes, you're right the number is bigger, that you've know enough math to tell when one number is bigger than the other is laudable. Trying to get you to think outside of your little conservative box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Do you ever have a counter argument to make or just slander and insults? If that's all you're capable of, slander and invective, than you're absolutely worthless.
    Do you own a Dictionary, try Dictionary.com, it’s free. It’s LIBEL you moron, not slander, he isn’t speaking to you in public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You're wrong. Community empowerment, civil rights, diversity standards, affirmative action, public education funding boosts, state's making community college free, those are all plans by Democrats to level the playing field for the xenophobic right which see's any advancement of minority growth as a threat to Caucasian purity.
    Affirmative action was the best approach to leveling the playing field, disregarding standardized testing which unfairly favored better funded schools and families able to arrange private tutors and studying. It simply said, we recognize the power of giving a disenfranchised individual the same opportunity available to their empowered Caucasian counterpart. And guess what, individuals given the opportunity they wouldn't normally have by and large succeed gloriously. They simply want it more and don't squander opportunities just handed to our trust fund babies and Presidents.
    Affirmative action is racist and has been shown so in college admissions and other places. All your spewage fails to address fundamental differences in black and white students nearly across the board. First, lack of families, lacking fundamental valuing of education and the dependence on government. Your support of affirmative action clearly demonstrates your racist view that black people can’t make it without your wise, enlightened, white help. Support of federal handouts promotes economic slavery to the government. How well has that worked over the past 60+ years of the “Great Society”? We went from 20% illegitimacy rate when the racist Arlin Spector lectured on it to the Senate and now it’s something over 77%. We have lowered school standards continuously and most notably recently with Common Core and yet continue to have lower graduation rates, lower literacy rates and rising poverty rates so government money and influence can’t be the solution.

    Then along comes Trump and removed regulations and the economy took off. End result, more black jobs than every before, more black businesses than ever before and more upward mobility than ever before. Until the #Faupandemic came along.

    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    You do realize people can legally move into and out of states, right?
    And that graduation RATE is not the same thing as NUMBER OF graduates, correct?
    And finally, Neveragain was talking about *High School* graduates. Not college graduates- which was the primary issue.
    You do realize that we clearly see you tap dancing around the fact that your rich state has fucked the poor big time to pay off their rich Leftist tech overlords. We also see you moving the goal posts as fast as you can because you can’t stand being shown to be an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Look at an economic census, look at half the sociology studies out there and you'll find there are a lot fewer Jim Bob's who want nothing more than to live in that trailer park and boink his 8 siblings than there are socio-economically empowered Caucasian kids benefiting from better schools, in middle class families created by Union protections that can afford to put a kid through college. Now using your laughable example, just how many people of color do you think are out there attending private schools raised by two white collar professionals? Just how many do you think there are in comparison to Caucasian children in the exact same situation? The ratio is staggering.
    Now take an inner city child in a dilapidated school, surrounded by people who are angry about being oppressed their entire lives. Then elect a President who he knows is not saying Make His America Great Again, but actually saying, "Make White America Great Again." Throw in a disease, several diseases actually, which disproportionately kill his friends and family members compared to the MAGA crowd. Now add a (thankfully small) handful of law enforcement officers who're less interested in protecting him and his family than they are patrolling looking for any opportunity to rough up another person of color. Any normal officer would have booked George Floyd for passing counterfeit money without incident, but instead he uses force which contributed to his demise. Your angry, there's now no one to protect you, no one in front of you looking out for your future. What can you do? Rise up.
    You continue to ignore the fundamental differences in society with your racist screed, namely families and societal importance of education along with government enslavement policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    https://wallethub.com/edu/states-mos...vernment/2700/
    CA is ranked 39th.
    [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_State s_by_GDP[/url
    California has by far the highest GDP, even with all the homelessness, means they are doing some things right.
    Move them goal posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Because a state with a population in the tens of millions has greater expenditures of resources than a state with a population in the hundreds of thousands. California, with it's massive amounts of land, well paved highways and until the coronavirus, balanced budget, is the perfect example of how a higher minimum wage and standard of living contributes to the strength of the economy.
    It's funny that MS got brought up by another misinformation specialist as somehow being a leader in it's lack of homelessness. I mean really, more than two thirds of it's budget comes from Federal grants and allotments. The fact they can stick everyone in a tin can trailer in the middle of a swamp and forgetting them isn't an example of progress, it's the antithesis of progress.
    Wrong again. With the changes in the Federal Budget Kommiefornia did not have a balanced budget and it was long before Corona. Also, you need to look at your state’s pension plan bankruptcy to come. You are far from liquid and it’s getting worse.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...110-story.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Oh, I perfectly understood it, but I'm exasperated by your implication of bias on part of it's methodology. That is how comparative analysis works in economics. You set the objective, ie compare dependency on the federal government and you input the relevant data factors to populate your analysis. What is more relevant to ascertaining federal independence that factoring in how much federal funding is received compared to it's budget. Would it have been more to your liking if the per capita number of god-fearing Christians were factored into the methodology? Square footage of gun stores compared to abortion clinics?

    Yes, you're right the number is bigger, that you've know enough math to tell when one number is bigger than the other is laudable. Trying to get you to think outside of your little conservative box.
    Look at Seran froth at the mouth defending an absurd metric such as the exact same number of federal dollars going to both a blue state and red state results in the red state being more "dependent" on federal dollars.

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1266871474142486529

    Can we just end this charade that the lockdowns are necessary anymore? This is just absurd that entire cities are being plunged into chaos with the government sitting on their hands while the rest of the country is being told to stay indoors because the outside is lava.

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