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    Last week every major news outlet reported that Rick Perry was resigning next month. Most people assumed that the reason he was resigning was because of his trips to Ukraine that might have been related to Trump's request for Ukraine to investigate Biden. But today Perry said he isn't resigning after all!

    Also -- and this is going to get him in trouble with his boss -- Perry said that he asked Trump several times to call Ukraine. But he said he asked Trump to speak with the president of Ukraine about energy, not about investigating Joe Biden.

    And then there is this, which some people call the "blame Perry" defense!..

    On Friday, the president claimed for the first time that he also hadn’t wanted to have the fateful July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at all, but did so at the request of Energy Secretary Rick Perry. Trump made the claim despite the fact that the memo his own White House released about the call contained no reference to Perry and only a passing reference — by Zelensky — to potential trade with the U.S. energy sector.

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    How long do you think Perry will last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Can you name just one person in the history of the world who wasn't connected to a powerful person in someway in which they climbed the corporate ladder in such a fashion? That is they went from being kicked out of the military for being a coke fiend to making 50,000 dollars a month?
    Wait, so it's suspicious that a lawyer whose resume includes being an executive in the bank industry and was appointed to the board of directors of Amtrak by George W Bush is somehow under-qualified to serve on the board of directors for a Ukrainian company?

    George W Bush only held a business degree and was governor for 4 years before becoming president. As he also had a cocaine incident, is he too under suspicion for luring Trump into commiting a campaign finance violation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Wait, so it's suspicious that a lawyer whose resume includes being an executive in the bank industry and was appointed to the board of directors of Amtrak by George W Bush is somehow under-qualified to serve on the board of directors for a Ukrainian company?
    Wait, so it's NOT suspicious that someone goes from lobbying to getting kicked out of the Navy for doing cocaine to landing a cushy 50k a month job in a company in which he has no experience in? I mean I guess that sounds legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    George W Bush only held a business degree and was governor for 4 years before becoming president. As he also had a cocaine incident, is he too under suspicion for luring Trump into commiting a campaign finance violation?
    You do understand the difference between running for public office and winning an election and getting a job at a company right?

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    You're splitting hairs in order to make Hunter Biden look as bad as possible as if that somehow changes the circumstances of Trump's alleged crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You're splitting hairs in order to make Hunter Biden look as bad as possible as if that somehow changes the circumstances of Trump's alleged crimes.
    Trump's alleged "crimes" is asking Ukraine to investigate corruption which just so happened to involve the Bidens. If there is no corruption then Joe and Hunter Biden should welcome an investigation to clear their names, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Trump's alleged "crimes" is asking Ukraine to investigate corruption which just so happened to involve the Bidens. If there is no corruption then Joe and Hunter Biden should welcome an investigation to clear their names, don't you think?
    To paraphrase 'If they have nothing to hide then they should be happy to cooperate with an investigation. Only guilty people hide from the government.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Trump's alleged "crimes" is asking Ukraine to investigate corruption which just so happened to involve the Bidens. If there is no corruption then Joe and Hunter Biden should welcome an investigation to clear their names, don't you think?
    For withholding aid until corruption investigation was agreed to and specifically for not separating the campaign to reelect from his executive position to enforce treaties, foreign relationships. The actions or misactions, however factual of a privately held energy company have nothing to do with military aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    For withholding aid until corruption investigation was agreed to and specifically for not separating the campaign to reelect from his executive position to enforce treaties, foreign relationships.
    You are going by the shit Adam Schiff literally made up instead of just reading the transcript. Why do you enjoy being lied to and misled by your elected officials?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You are going by the shit Adam Schiff literally made up instead of just reading the transcript. Why do you enjoy being lied to and misled by your elected officials?
    He wasn't lying, he said it was a "parody". Because he knew some people are too stupid to understand what that means and that they'd take everything he said as being 100% true.
    Last edited by Gelston; 10-08-2019 at 04:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    He wasn't lying, he said it was a "parody". Because he knew some people are too stupid to understand what that means and that they'd take everything he said as being 100% true.
    Saying it was a parody was a lame excuse for his lies.

    I would rather take Bill Clinton's "it depends on what your definition of is is" over that.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 10-08-2019 at 05:00 PM.

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