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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
    Tomorrows going to be fun in this thread.
    Is Trump finally being impeached tomorrow?

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    So is your argument against NAFTA? I can see why, per your sources two years since 1994 there was a trade surplus, the rest a deficit. I mean, before NAFTA we had a better deal. Right, that's your source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    So is your argument against NAFTA? I can see why, per your sources two years since 1994 there was a trade surplus, the rest a deficit. I mean, before NAFTA we had a better deal. Right, that's your source.
    Way to move the goalpost and claim a win there, RINO. What my original post said, in case you forgot or hit your head, was that in only 16% of the time in the last 60 years have we had a trade surplus with Mexico. You're shorting NAFTA with the completely erroneous and misleading argument that two WHOLE years there was a trade surplus and my post points out how absolutely disingenuous your statement is by citing facts.

    This is precisely why people don't sight facts to you creatures, you either do not understand it or completely disregard it because it doesn't further your argument. Fortunately political reality isn't shaped by your confusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Way to move the goalpost and claim a win there, RINO. What my original post said, in case you forgot or hit your head, was that in only 16% of the time in the last 60 years have we had a trade surplus with Mexico. You're shorting NAFTA with the completely erroneous and misleading argument that two WHOLE years there was a trade surplus and my post points out how absolutely disingenuous your statement is by citing facts.

    This is precisely why people don't sight facts to you creatures, you either do not understand it or completely disregard it because it doesn't further your argument. Fortunately political reality isn't shaped by your confusion.
    So your argument is NAFTA had no positive impact then? Or it made no difference? What part of it didn't pan out am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    So your argument is NAFTA had no positive impact then? Or it made no difference? What part of it didn't pan out am I missing?
    The deal has long been a political target. In 2008, then–presidential candidate Barack Obama responded to widespread trade skepticism among the Democratic base by promising to renegotiate NAFTA to include tougher labor and environmental standards, a pledge he subsequently abandoned. The issue resurfaced in the 2016 presidential campaign, with both Senator Bernie Sanders (I–VT) and Donald Trump criticizing the pact for bringing U.S. job losses.
    ~ Council on Foreign Relations.

    And the neoliberals wonder how it's possible that they lost to Trump.

    The doubling down on destroying the middle class is amazing to watch.
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    A random quote, that's what you come back with? You really are a waste of time.

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    You obviously haven't read a single thing posted showing the massive increase in trade or business benefits of NAFTA. If you're unwilling to educate yourself, then I won't either. Good luck child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    You obviously haven't read a single thing posted showing the massive increase in trade or business benefits of NAFTA. If you're unwilling to educate yourself, then I won't either. Good luck child.
    No, you're right. How would we have ever survived with the tariffs on chiclets and turquoise.

    You're really missing the part about what jobs went south of the border in exchange for the jobs it created here.

    Most of this is moot, as it is not me that gets to go campaign in the rust belt and explain to the UAW that NAFTA was good for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    No, you're right. How would we have ever survived with the tariffs on chiclets and turquoise.

    You're really missing the part about what jobs went south of the border in exchange for the jobs it created here.

    Most of this is moot, as it is not me that gets to go campaign in the rust belt and explain to the UAW that NAFTA was good for them.
    Chiclets and turquoise, how plainly racist. How about cars and parts, household electronics and appliances? All of which is assembled more economically in Mexico to the benefit of US Consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    Chiclets and turquoise, how plainly racist. How about cars and parts, household electronics and appliances? All of which is assembled more economically in Mexico to the benefit of US Consumers.

    Ok I’ll bite. What’s racist about chiclets and turquoise?
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