https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48181...5GjJWvOwrut98w
I mean, Biden literally confesses to bribery right here on video.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c48181...5GjJWvOwrut98w
I mean, Biden literally confesses to bribery right here on video.
Last edited by Gelston; 09-30-2019 at 10:50 PM.
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Oh that's very interesting. Can you please link to the investigation that arrived to this conclusion?Originally Posted by BriarFox
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This is unfortunately just conjecture, as conclusions on intent often are. This was not done at a time where 'clearing up corruption' in Ukraine was of foremost concern of US policy. The War in Donbass, essentially a civil war, was raging and the country was facing Russian invasion. This aid was absolutely critical and there was no reasonable expectation that the Ukrainian government could refuse any request that would delay delivery of that aid.
The media argues its the hidden message, the implication of Trump asking a 'favor'. The message is far less subtle when you threaten to withhold aid from such a war-torn, desperate recipient.
Nancy Pelosi apparently said she knew what was said on the phone call before Trump declassified and unredacted the call for public consumption.
Gee whiz, I'm no CIA agent or anything, but how the hell did she know that?
Sure smells like there is a spy in the White House working on behalf of the Democrats.
Democrats are now pushing for Trump to release MORE private phone calls he has had with world leaders because he has them locked away in an electronic file. The same electronic file Obama locked away private phone calls with world leaders.
What the fuck is wrong with Democrats? Talk about fucking up our relationships with our allies. Democrats already badgered Trump to release one private phone call with a world leader, imagine if they get Trump to release even more? World leaders are going to think twice before discussing anything with the president, Trump or otherwise.
This is how it has played out so far:
Trump has private conversations with world leaders.
At least 2 of those private conversations were "leaked" to the press.
Trump says "Okay fuck this shit, lock these conversations up and make it so only certain people have access to them."
Yet another phone call was "leaked" (this is the Ukraine one.)
Democrats now say "Since you have the audacity to secure these phone calls it's proof you are corrupt, release more."
And useful idiots like Briarfox thinks this is all perfectly normal.
Sounds like a miserable existence being part of the "liberal elite." Having to defend shit night and day you know is wrong and then laughing when a Hollywood "celebrity" mocks a small child for enjoying Star Wars. I just picture Briarfox coming home to an empty house every day and eating left over Chinese over a sink.
Last edited by Tgo01; 09-30-2019 at 11:21 PM.
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You have got your timeline entirely backwards. Trump locked the transcripts onto the ultra-secure server long before he became aware of the whistleblower and his biggest mistake was giving into his own massive ego and voluntarily releasing the Ukraine transcript. It confirmed /exactly/ what the whistleblower's complaint alleged.
Trump has done exactly what the population feared- he's compromised the integrity of the office, the national security of his nation and has betrayed the American people all in the name of self-interest and trying to hide his own criminal behavior.
Fucking up the relationships with our allies? LOL. Trump started that boulder rolling downhill the moment he dissolved NAFTA.
That's exactly what I just got finished saying. Honestly how hard is the English language for you? Maybe I'm being overly harsh and English is your second language? Please advise.
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Unless you don't speak English, when you list a series of events from top to bottom are beginning to end. The only lack of understanding in the language is you having absolutely no idea how to pull your head out of your own butthole long enough to acknowledge your own lack of understanding. At least you and the Executive have that in common.
Yes, exactly.
Trump says "Okay fuck this shit, lock these conversations up and make it so only certain people have access to them."
Was first on my list.
Then:
Yet another phone call was "leaked" (this is the Ukraine one.)
Was next.
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Which is his right. As it is the responsibility of the whistleblower to have reported Trump's obvious illegal activity.
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