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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    You are innocent until proven guilty. If you cannot prove him guilty, he isn't guilty.
    That’s not what’s happening, and I think you know that. Mueller was saying that the OLC decision prevents a sitting president from being indicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarFox View Post
    That’s not what’s happening, and I think you know that. Mueller was saying that the OLC decision prevents a sitting president from being indicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Wait you really are unaware of Mueller saying this under oath before congress? You don't remember the whole hubbub when Ted Lieu asked exactly what you are claiming and Mueller initially said he was correct, causing a lot of talk among Democrats how that was all they needed to know that Mueller was giving Congress the go ahead to impeach Trump, then a while later Mueller came back to say he misspoke and that wasn't true at all? Really shows how well you pay attention to political topics you think you're an expert in. Just keep proving all you do is watch CNN and MSNBC and let the adults talk about topics they know what they are talking about, okay little boy?

    But here you go anyways:

    Mueller is clarifying wording there, not supporting your argument. I imagine this is too complex a thing for you to grasp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarFox View Post
    That’s not what’s happening, and I think you know that. Mueller was saying that the OLC decision prevents a sitting president from being indicted.
    Again, you are innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of if they could charge him or not. They concluded there isn't enough to charge. Whether or not it exonerates him is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Again, you are innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of if they could charge him or not. They concluded there isn't enough to charge. Whether or not it exonerates him is irrelevant.
    That's my take as well. I think based on the report, Trump did shady things. But he's still innocent, right now.
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    I really hate that these people call themselves liberals. They are just the opposite in the true sense of the words meaning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Again, you are innocent until proven guilty. Regardless of if they could charge him or not. They concluded there isn't enough to charge. Whether or not it exonerates him is irrelevant.
    No. This is factually wrong. Mueller said a few things: 1) The OLC decision prevents a sitting president from being indicted, 2) he could be indicted after he left office and so an investigation is warranted, 3) Mueller chose not to make a determination as to whether the president committed a crime because, since he can’t be indicted, it couldn’t go to trial, and he would then have no trial in which to defend himself, which he deserves, and 4) given the above, Mueller can’t charge the president but he also has too much evidence to exonerate him.

    The unfortunate problem here is that people think in simple binaries like innocent/guilty, and this conclusion is too complex for 90% of people to follow.
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    You so smart. I no get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage View Post
    You so smart. I no get it.
    I have every confidence that you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriarFox View Post
    No. This is factually wrong. Mueller said a few things: 1) The OLC decision prevents a sitting president from being indicted, 2) he could be indicted after he left office and so an investigation is warranted, 3) Mueller chose not to make a determination as to whether the president committed a crime because, since he can’t be indicted, it couldn’t go to trial, and he would then have no trial in which to defend himself, which he deserves, and 4) given the above, Mueller can’t charge the president but he also has too much evidence to exonerate him.

    The unfortunate problem here is that people think in simple binaries like innocent/guilty, and this conclusion is too complex for 90% of people to follow.
    Innocent until proven guilty is factually wrong? I'm glad I don't live in your idea of America.
    Last edited by Gelston; 09-25-2019 at 05:35 PM.
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