My goodbye forever rant

[Methais]

Yeah, they've discussed punishments for large amounts of unnamed players abusing a bug before. Such as when they banned those retards for abusing the scarab bug and making $15m during the H4H event.

[Methais]

Regarding enchantability, the only thing I can find is the material difficulty table, which I believe is referenced elsewhere across the wiki:
https://gswiki.play.net/Material
However, whether or not that is GM supported, or old data based on changes, it's absolutely ambiguous.

The only thing I can think of from a QC perspective is that it could have been an omission in the materials table. Imagine having a list of materials like that and then asking someone to confirm, but ohh, one line was missing... What should have been caught would be a novalue command in the lookup to bring in a restriction rather than a 0. But, that's 100% speculation based things I've seen on the job.

I agree with Parkbandit on this one. This doesn't appear to be the whole story... Based on the GM posting, it appears that there were more conditions that are a little weird:
1) Knowledge that the enchanting should have been impossible (This seems to be where a lot of debate is)
2) Not discussing whether the enchanting is possible with GMs, or the bug not being properly reported. (This is also the current area of debate, considering your interpretation of 1)
3) Interfacing with people to capitalize on the enchanting
4) Profiting off of #3

As far as Nuadhja's comments... Yeah, there's about a 100% guarantee that there are GMs in HotA, but they can't say who they are... we used to speculate. But, knowing how much Simu got shit in the past for utilizing LNET and Discord conversation in the past, they'd be super shitty and dumb to utilize that in issuance of a warning.

Either way, Simu just needs to put out a list of metals that shouldn't be player enchantable for any non-bug related reasons.

If they don't after this fiasco, then they're basically embracing their own stupidity and showcasing it for everyone to see.

It's ok to be stupid, just don't brag about it.

[Gelston]

[drauz]

Regarding enchantability, the only thing I can find is the material difficulty table, which I believe is referenced elsewhere across the wiki:
https://gswiki.play.net/Material
However, whether or not that is GM supported, or old data based on changes, it's absolutely ambiguous.

The only thing I can think of from a QC perspective is that it could have been an omission in the materials table. Imagine having a list of materials like that and then asking someone to confirm, but ohh, one line was missing... What should have been caught would be a novalue command in the lookup to bring in a restriction rather than a 0. But, that's 100% speculation based things I've seen on the job.

I agree with Parkbandit on this one. This doesn't appear to be the whole story... Based on the GM posting, it appears that there were more conditions that are a little weird:
1) Knowledge that the enchanting should have been impossible (This seems to be where a lot of debate is)
2) Not discussing whether the enchanting is possible with GMs, or the bug not being properly reported. (This is also the current area of debate, considering your interpretation of 1)
3) Interfacing with people to capitalize on the enchanting
4) Profiting off of #3

As far as Nuadhja's comments... Yeah, there's about a 100% guarantee that there are GMs in HotA, but they can't say who they are... we used to speculate. But, knowing how much Simu got shit in the past for utilizing LNET and Discord conversation in the past, they'd be super shitty and dumb to utilize that in issuance of a warning.

The new enchant system didn't take into account material difficulty at all. Coraesine was just what they are publicizing, people also enchanted zelnorn. Since coraesine was just sold at DR it's what people got caught for.

[BriarFox]

The new enchant system didn't take into account material difficulty at all. Coraesine was just what they are publicizing, people also enchanted zelnorn. Since coraesine was just sold at DR it's what people got caught for.

Whoever got pinged for the zelnorn wasn't in HoA, to my knowledge. We just had a few people who thought they could enchant coraesine now, and one poor bastard who got GMA warned for enchanting some fake old krodera that has no mechanical benefits.

[Methais]

I don't know who Methais R. Tinklesmith is.

Probably your mom.

[Gelston]

I don't know who Methais R. Tinklesmith is.

Probably your mom.

It is your birth name, according to Government records.

[Murrandii]

Regarding enchantability, the only thing I can find is the material difficulty table, which I believe is referenced elsewhere across the wiki:
https://gswiki.play.net/Material
However, whether or not that is GM supported, or old data based on changes, it's absolutely ambiguous.

The only thing I can think of from a QC perspective is that it could have been an omission in the materials table. Imagine having a list of materials like that and then asking someone to confirm, but ohh, one line was missing... What should have been caught would be a novalue command in the lookup to bring in a restriction rather than a 0. But, that's 100% speculation based things I've seen on the job.

I agree with Parkbandit on this one. This doesn't appear to be the whole story... Based on the GM posting, it appears that there were more conditions that are a little weird:
1) Knowledge that the enchanting should have been impossible (This seems to be where a lot of debate is)
2) Not discussing whether the enchanting is possible with GMs, or the bug not being properly reported. (This is also the current area of debate, considering your interpretation of 1)
3) Interfacing with people to capitalize on the enchanting
4) Profiting off of #3

As far as Nuadhja's comments... Yeah, there's about a 100% guarantee that there are GMs in HotA, but they can't say who they are... we used to speculate. But, knowing how much Simu got shit in the past for utilizing LNET and Discord conversation in the past, they'd be super shitty and dumb to utilize that in issuance of a warning.

Welcome back man, you've been missed by many.

[Gelston]

Either way, Simu just needs to put out a list of metals that shouldn't be player enchantable for any non-bug related reasons.

If they don't after this fiasco, then they're basically embracing their own stupidity and showcasing it for everyone to see.

It's ok to be stupid, just don't brag about it.

There is a list. It is the same list they had. All the metals with -999 are never meant to be enchanted.

[drauz]

I'll add that I also received a warning. Here is my log of the interaction.

A shaft of scintillating light suddenly pierces the ceiling and strikes the ground next to you.  The beam of light then explodes in a shower of sparks and Coase is standing in its place.
>
Coase says, "Hello."
>
Coase says, "I'm sorry for the wait."
>'Hello
You say, "Hello."
>
Coase says, "Unfortunately, I've pulled you up to talk to you regarding a matter of game mechanics abuse."."
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Coase says, "Http://forums.play.net/forums/GemStone%20IV/Help%20for%20Players/Policy%20Discussions/view."
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Coase says, "In summary, there was a bug that existed in the enchanting system that was introduced a few months ago and was correct in the last week or two."
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Coase says, "It allowed for the enchanting of materials that should not be allowed be enchanted, to be enchanted with zero difficulty instead."
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Coase says, "It was fixed and we did a search of items that might have been affected."
>
Coase says, "And we discovered that you were involved in multiple enchantments of these items."
>'Multiple?
You ask, "Multiple?"
>
 * Nitewisper is dust in the wind!
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Coase says, "A coraesine tetsubo and a krodera falchion."
>
Coase says, "We also, unfortunately, discovered evidence that that you were aware that this was a bug, discussed it with others, did not report it, and continued to abuse it."
>'I thought it was just a krodera weapon in name, not a real one
You say, "I thought it was just a krodera weapon in name, not a real one."
>'Isn't it just a whatever X enchant weapon?
You ask, "Isn't it just a whatever X enchant weapon?"
>
Coase says, "No, it wasn't."
>
Coase says, "I will be issuing you a warning for Game Mechanics Abuse."
>
Coase says, "No lockout is being assessed, due to recent good behavior."
>
Coase says, "All enchanted items affected by this are being reset back to their initial enchantment statistics."
>

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XXXXX, this is your SECOND official warning, that engaging in system mechanics abuse is against GemStone IV policy.  Further warnings could result in your being temporarily locked out of the game.

If you feel this warning was received in error, please speak to a GameHost by typing ASSIST REQUEST.

You can also learn more about GemStone IV policies online, by typing POLICY while in the game or by visiting http://www.play.net/gs4/gamepolicy.asp.



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>'I don't argee with that, but sure.
You say, "I don't argee with that, but sure."
>
Coase says, "I understand."
>
Coase asks, "Do you have any questions for me regarding this matter?"
>'Nope
You say, "Nope."
>
Coase says, "Alright, I will be returning you to the game now.  Please take care to follow POLICY going forward."
>shrug
You shrug.
>
The world grows blurry and indistinct.  After a moment everything becomes clear again.  Looking about, you see...