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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Wait...so you think Stone was actively working with the Trump campaign to collude with Russia to steal the election...yet they only charged him with lying about it?

    How is it possible you're even more retarded than Androidpk? Because I don't think even Androidpk is saying that. Or maybe he is, it's hard to decipher retard.
    Question, is it possible, they have a lot more they could have charged him with? That they indicted him just for this, without wanting to tip off that they know more? So they can use it to make him flip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Question, is it possible, they have a lot more they could have charged him with? That they indicted him just for this, without wanting to tip off that they know more? So they can use it to make him flip?
    Very much possible, conspiracy to defraud the US. Thats the charge I expect Manafort, Kushner, Price, Junior, and Trump will face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Very much possible, conspiracy to defraud the US. Thats the charge I expect Manafort, Kushner, Price, Junior, and Trump will face


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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Question, is it possible, they have a lot more they could have charged him with? That they indicted him just for this, without wanting to tip off that they know more? So they can use it to make him flip?
    Is it possible that they have nothing and are grasping at straws with the easiest charges they can find? Isn't it possible that if they want to get him for lying to Congress that maybe, just maybe they should also go after some other prominent people who have perjured themselves before Congress rather than unequivocally demonstrate a serious level of political bias? Are these things possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    Is it possible that they have nothing and are grasping at straws with the easiest charges they can find? Isn't it possible that if they want to get him for lying to Congress that maybe, just maybe they should also go after some other prominent people who have perjured themselves before Congress rather than unequivocally demonstrate a serious level of political bias? Are these things possible?

    Of course, but to be raided, and indicted means they are far from grasping at straws imo.
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    Serious level of bias..

    Mueller is one of the straightest shooters in law enforcement. I swear the level of idiocy shown by you, tgo and PB is beyond absurd. Stop watching infowars and fox news and get some real sources for once and maybe you'll stop looking like the raging zealot/fanatic everyone thinks you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Serious level of bias..

    Mueller is one of the straightest shooters in law enforcement. I swear the level of idiocy shown by you, tgo and PB is beyond absurd. Stop watching infowars and fox news and get some real sources for once and maybe you'll stop looking like the raging zealot/fanatic everyone thinks you are.
    The only one looking like a raging zealot/fanatic is you and the butthurt tard brigade. Still no collusion and that makes you soooooo mad that you post fake news 24/7 and act like every post means the end for the bad orange man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathbringer View Post
    The only one looking like a raging zealot/fanatic is you and the butthurt tard brigade. Still no collusion and that makes you soooooo mad that you post fake news 24/7 and act like every post means the end for the bad orange man.
    President Trump's campaign has been directly implicated in the indictment against Roger Stone. According to Special Counsel Mueller's indictments after July 22nd 2016 a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact Roger Stone for more information about Wikileaks releasing additional damaging information regarding the Clinton Campaign. Roger Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases. On July 27th candidate Trump looked directly at the camera and publicly asked Russia for their help in finding Hillary Clinton's 30,000 missing emails.[1] Special Counsel Mueller's indictment against 12 Russian Intelligence Officers found that on or around July 27 2016 Russian hackers known as Guccifer 2.0 hacked the Clinton campaign.

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. ROGER JASON STONE, JR.[2]

    4. ROGER JASON STONE, JR. was a political consultant who worked for decades in U.S. politics and on U.S. political campaigns. STONE was an official on the U.S. presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump (“Trump Campaign”) until in or around August 2015, and maintained regular contact with and publicly supported the Trump Campaign through the 2016 election. 5.

    5. During the summer of 2016, STONE spoke to senior Trump Campaign officials about Organization 1 and information it might have had that would be damaging to the Clinton Campaign. STONE was contacted by senior Trump Campaign officials to inquire about future releases by Organization 1.

    11. By in or around June and July 2016, STONE informed senior Trump Campaign officials that he had information indicating Organization 1 had documents whose release would be damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The head of Organization 1 was located at all relevant times at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, United Kingdom.

    12. After the July 22, 2016 release of stolen DNC emails by Organization 1, a senior Trump Campaign official was directed to contact STONE about any additional releases and what other damaging information Organization 1 had regarding the Clinton Campaign. STONE thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by Organization 1.

    17. On or about October 7, 2016, Organization 1 released the first set of emails stolen from the Clinton Campaign chairman. Shortly after Organization 1’s release, an associate of the high-ranking Trump Campaign official sent a text message to STONE that read “well done.” In subsequent conversations with senior Trump Campaign officials, STONE claimed credit for having correctly predicted the October 7, 2016 release.

    DoJ Indictment of 12 Russian Intelligence Officers[3]

    22. The Conspirators spearphished individuals affiliated with the Clinton Campaign throughout the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the Conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a thirdparty provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.

    Context: Former Trump Campaign adviser Roger Stone, Wikileaks, Guccifer 2.0, and Russian military intelligence (GRU)

    During the 2016 Presidential campaign Roger Stone[4] made constant braggadocios statements about his ties to Guccifer 2.0, the DNC hacker, and Wikileaks. While Roger Stone has attempted to downplay his communication with Guccifer 2.0, he has admitted to have been in contact with the DNC hacking suspect.[5] On July 13, 2018 Special Counsel Mueller indicts 12 Russian Intelligence Officers that work for the GRU - Russia's military intelligence agency. This was a military operation conducted by the Russian state. The indictment details GRU officers using the moniker Guciffer 2.0 that disseminated the hacked material through Wikileaks.[6]

    We also know that Special Counsel Mueller has been asking questions about whether or not President Trump knew of the hacked DNC emails before they were released. They've asked about the relationship between GOP operative Roger Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and why Trump took policy positions favorable to Russia.[7] WikiLeaks should be considered an extension of Russia's 2016 disinformation campaign,[8] we know that WikiLeaks shared material hacked by the GRU.[9]

    Roger Stone has been a target of this investigation for quite some time, he has tried to get ahead of a potential indictment by claiming he is ready to be indicted and that the Russian collusion scandal is a hoax.[10] A report by the Wall Street Journal confirmed that Roger Stone sought damaging information on Hillary Clinton from Julian Assange during the campaign.[11]

    1) New York Times - Donald Trump Calls on Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails
    2) U.S. Department of Justice indictment of Roger Stone)
    3) U.S. Department of Justice indictment of 12 Russian Intelligence Officers
    4) New York Times - Roger Stone, the ‘Trickster’ on Trump’s Side, Is Under F.B.I. Scrutiny
    5) Chicago Tribune - Ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone swapped messages with DNC hacking suspect
    6) U.S. Justice Department Federal Indictment by a Grand Jury - 12 Russian Intelligence Officers and their role with election interference
    7) NBC - Mueller asking if Trump knew about hacked Democratic emails before release
    8) Foreign Policy - WikiLeaks Turned Down Leaks on Russian Government During U.S. Presidential Campaign
    9) CBS - How did WikiLeaks become associated with Russia?
    10) NPR - Trump Adviser Roger Stone Says He's 'Prepared' If Indicted By Special Counsel Mueller
    11) Wall Street Journal - Roger Stone Sought Information on Clinton From Assange, Emails Show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solkern View Post
    Question, is it possible, they have a lot more they could have charged him with? That they indicted him just for this, without wanting to tip off that they know more? So they can use it to make him flip?
    I suppose it's possible, but that's very unethical. Typically a prosecutor will throw everything they have at someone then offer to drop some of the more serious charges in exchange for cooperation. If they they are only throwing the little stuff at first then threaten to add more charges unless they get cooperation that's not only how it's not typically done, but it would once again prove Mueller isn't interested in investigating crimes as he finds them, but he is instead interested in investigating people and hoping he finds crimes.

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