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    George Papadopoulos begins his prison sentence tomorrow.

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    Hasn't it been like a month since Trump Jr. was going to be indicted "within the week"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Hasn't it been like a month since Trump Jr. was going to be indicted "within the week"?
    No, he predicted it was going to happen within the week and he is always correct on those.
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    Looking back he just said "some big indictments".

    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    So this 10 day extension seems a little strange. Most extensions we've seen have been for 60 to 90 days. Makes it seem even more likely that some big indictments are about to drop RSN.
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    Manafort done fucked up and lied to the feds after making a plea deal, exposing himself to further time as well as potentially exposing Trump by allowing Mueller to explain directly to a judge about the lies and collusion.

    This is a mini-bench-trial of the collusion facts. If the court grants it, we will see the whole show, right here, and IIRC under the clear-and-convincing standard (for violating plea) rather than reasonable doubt.

    Mueller has proposed a way to put Donald Trump, and the facts about Donald Trump, on trial without the slightest chance of executive privilege being asserted, successfully or unsuccessfully.

    The judge, not a jury, will make these findings. So they will be spelled out on the open public record, not hidden in the jury’s black box where they can’t be used. And you can be sure Mueller wouldn’t ask for such a hearing unless he had rock-solid evidence on each Manafort lie.

    “But,” you cry. “Can’t Trump just deny everything? He lies all the time!” Ha. Ah ha ha. Oh ho ho hee hee. Sure, but that would WAIVE EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE. Damn, I love ninja lawyers.

    Executive privilege can only be used as a shield, not a sword. You can’t poke your head out from behind the privilege, deny that a bunch of stuff happened, then pop back behind it when subpoenaed for all the testimony and evidence and cross-examination that proves you wrong.

    So basically, if the judge grants this sentencing hearing under the parameters requested, Trump has little choice but to sit on his hands while the whole case against him is tried in his absence. If he speaks up, he loses any defense to broad document and testimony subpoenas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Hasn't it been like a month since Trump Jr. was going to be indicted "within the week"?
    Maybe you should ask Junior that, since he's the one that was saying it.

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    He was expecting to be indicted. I think it was shaft that said he was. Pk just said major ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Maybe you should ask Junior that, since he's the one that was saying it.
    You mean anonymous sources said he said that? And you repeated what said anonymous sources said? Just tell me where I'm wrong here.

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    And I'm still expecting them, even more so now that Manafort has been exposed and Trump submitted answers to Mueller. Justice is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    You mean anonymous sources said he said that? And you repeated what said anonymous sources said? Just tell me where I'm wrong here.
    Prove that Junior didn't say it. I'll wait.

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