Russia Investigation Heating Up

[Neveragain]

Being a black man myself I have to partly disagree. I think what’s happening at the core is a class issue which drives the race issue, that is, being terminally poor and politically and consumer base weak opens you up to racism. Coupled with the natural tendency to prefer one’s own race to varying degrees and the fact that poverty creates incentives for people to commit crime in order to survive and you get this toxic combination that leads to cops nonchalantly shooting blacks in the back.

If you want a solution it’s simple. Education. My brothers and sisters need to realize that they themselves are the only ones who can help themselves and not the government. Government will only try to use you while holding you firmly down so they got that voter base locked down. My personal word of advice, if you are living in some area that’s unsafe and you’re too poor to educate yourself much less feed yourself, join the military. It’ll get you out of there and give you opportunities you wouldn’t believe, sky’s the limit especially if you got a decent head on your shoulders.
/rant

[Gelston]

Please cite evidence demonstrating your point. If you are correct, then there should be clear evidence that poor while people are more likely to be killed by police, arrested, get longer sentencing, etc then middle class black people.

We'll wait.

Something interesting I've found, the number of white people killed by police has already surpassed the number of black people killed by police for all of 2017. You act like police only shoot black people, no, it is income based. More black people live in low income areas where crime is likely to occur. Not to mention how many of those shoots(The overwhelming majority) were 100% justified.

[RichardCranium]

Being a black man myself I have to partly disagree. I think what’s happening at the core is a class issue which drives the race issue, that is, being terminally poor and politically and consumer base weak opens you up to racism. Coupled with the natural tendency to prefer one’s own race to varying degrees and the fact that poverty creates incentives for people to commit crime in order to survive and you get this toxic combination that leads to cops nonchalantly shooting blacks in the back.

I agree with this. You made the point much better than I was trying to.

[time4fun]

Lol, your racist is showing.

You mean the part where I expected you to come up with actual evidence for your point? Or the part where I refuse to ackknowledge that race matters so I can pretend racism doesn't exist?

Oh wait, that last one isn't me.

Belief =/= fact.

[RichardCranium]

You mean the part where I expected you to come up with actual evidence for your point? Or the part where I refuse to ackknowledge that race matters so I can pretend racism doesn't exist?

Oh wait, that last one isn't me.

Belief =/= fact.

I'm not sure how I can provide evidence of life experiences. Number two, I NEVER said racism doesn't exist. On the contrary, my original post you quoted said the opposite.

[Gelston]

I'm not sure how I can provide evidence of life experiences. Number two, I NEVER said racism doesn't exist. On the contrary, my original post you quoted said the opposite.

Did you know 95% of police involved shootings have occurred in neighborhoods where family income was 100 grand a year or less?

I think it is funny how she is trying to play off that every cop is racist though. Including the black ones.

[Tgo01]

Please cite evidence demonstrating your point. If you are correct, then there should be clear evidence that poor while people are more likely to be killed by police, arrested, get longer sentencing, etc then middle class black people.

We'll wait.

Where's your source suggesting middle class black people are more likely to be killed by police, arrested, get longer sentencing, etc, than poor white people. Also please make sure said study accounts for crimes committed by both groups of people, likelihood of each group of people being armed or pointing a gun at a police officer, and accounts for if their longer sentence is due to this being their first conviction or if they have prior convictions already.

[Parkbandit]

You mean the part where I expected you to come up with actual evidence for your point? Or the part where I refuse to ackknowledge that race matters so I can pretend racism doesn't exist?

Oh wait, that last one isn't me.

Belief =/= fact.

Who stated that racism doesn't exist?

Can you, for once, not create the most retarded strawman arguments?

[Methais]

No. Is that why theres been so much hatred levelled at BLM? Because they didn't stand up for a white guy getting shot by cops?

What's illuminating is that you've all made BLM and protesting police brutality by black people a wedge issue.

BLM is ask silent when a black person kills another black person. Black lives only matter to them when a white person is involved.

What’s illuminating is that you’re the exact same way.

[time4fun]

I'm not sure how I can provide evidence of life experiences. Number two, I NEVER said racism doesn't exist. On the contrary, my original post you quoted said the opposite.

No, you just discount the consideration of race when it comes up.

And seriously Richard- you can't think of ANY way to provide evidence of documentable social phenomenon?

This is a subject that has been researched extensively. There's even a progressive think tank study from a few years ago that gives some credence to your argument. (Granted it's superceded by more recent research and is also an outlier in the research)