Russia Investigation Heating Up

[Androidpk]

Um...nobody engages in conversation on PC like an adult. NOBODY would act the way they do in RL like they do on this forum.

Let's me real here.

No, you're full of shit. Most interactions on the PC are fine. Then you have people like parkbandit, methais, and wraithbringer.

[Fortybox]

Don't edit this! "Let's me real here" is a bitchin' quote. Very Zen...I think.

[Fortybox]

Also I play Gemstone.

It's not a requisite for this forum.

[cwolff]

You Edited it! Dude, that was awesome.

[Fortybox]

You Edited it! Dude, that was awesome.

Why wouldn't I? Posting from my phone.

[time4fun]

Manafort is at it again. The Hill is reporting that he is now challenging some of the evidence Mueller's investigation procured from a storage locker:

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort filed a motion late Friday to suppress evidence special counsel Robert Mueller’s team found in a storage locker in Virginia.

Manafort is claiming that Mueller unlawfully had access to the business records in the unit because a former Manafort employer listed on the lease allowed entry. According to Manafort, the employee didn’t have the authority to allow a FBI agent into the unit.

During that visit, agent didn’t seize any records but “entered and observed a number of boxes and a filing cabinet inside the premises, as well as some writing on the sides of some boxes,” according to the filing.


The agent wrote and signed an affidavit in favor of a search of the storage unit the next day, in May 2017, using “information he had obtained during his warrantless search” to argue in favor of a warrant to search and seize documents from the unit, the court documents state.

This appears to have been part of the flurry of subpoenas that Mueller's team got shortly after flipping Gates.

Manafort's legal strategy continues to perplex. He's fighting against a waterfall with a toy bucket.

Though if you look at this as a non-legal, legal strategy it starts to make some sense. He's not trying to win this case- he's stalling.

My best guess on this one is that Manafort does have the closet of smoking guns that Mueller thinks he has (maybe for collusion, or maybe just something unrelated entirely), and he knows that Trump is aware of that fact. He's waiting for Mueller to overplay his hand- get all of the charges out in Federal Court, and then he's counting on Trump for a pardon. Trump can't pardon him too early- any charges that are left off the table can (and will) be picked right back up by the NY AG.

A significant number of his financial crimes are in New York's jurisdiction, but New York specifically has a double jeopardy law on the books. Anything Manafort is pardoned for in Federal Court is officially off limits for the NY AG.

This borders a bit too heavily on conspiracy theory territory for my usual liking, but given how extreme the situation is with Manafort right now- an extreme explanation is increasingly likely.

[Fortybox]

Manafort is at it again. The Hill is reporting that he is now challenging some of the evidence Mueller's investigation procured from a storage locker:



This appears to have been part of the flurry of subpoenas that Mueller's team got shortly after flipping Gates.

Manafort's legal strategy continues to perplex. He's fighting against a waterfall with a toy bucket.

Though if you look at this as a non-legal, legal strategy it starts to make some sense. He's not trying to win this case- he's stalling.

My best guess on this one is that Manafort does have the closet of smoking guns that Mueller thinks he has (maybe for collusion, or maybe just something unrelated entirely), and he knows that Trump is aware of that fact. He's waiting for Mueller to overplay his hand- get all of the charges out in Federal Court, and then he's counting on Trump for a pardon. Trump can't pardon him too early- any charges that are left off the table can (and will) be picked right back up by the NY AG.

A significant number of his financial crimes are in New York's jurisdiction, but New York specifically has a double jeopardy law on the books. Anything Manafort is pardoned for in Federal Court is officially off limits for the NY AG.

This borders a bit too heavily on conspiracy theory territory for my usual liking, but given how extreme the situation is with Manafort right now- an extreme explanation is increasingly likely.

Or it could be that Manafort is using the legal process to argue that the agent violated his 4th amendment rights. I know you think those amendments are so silly and sooooo out of date but thankfully our legal system still upholds them.

[cwolff]

Or it could be that Manafort is using the legal process to argue that the agent violated his 4th amendment rights. I know you think those amendments are so silly and sooooo out of date but thankfully our legal system still upholds them.

If these rights were sacred then trump supporters would kick him in the balls for attacking journalism and protesting athletes the way he does. I've also never seen jacked up pick ups flying the Molon Labe flag out there protesting DUI checkpoints. Manafort is clutching at straws here. I believe his tenant or someone let the FBI into the shed?

[time4fun]

If these rights were sacred then trump supporters would kick him in the balls for attacking journalism and protesting athletes the way he does. I've also never seen jacked up pick ups flying the Molon Labe flag out there protesting DUI checkpoints. Manafort is clutching at straws here. I believe his tenant or someone let the FBI into the shed?

I think the issue here is that Forty- like most of the conservative kids of PC- doesn't actually follow this very closely and isn't aware of all of the other doomed-to-fail legal maneuvers Manafort has attempted to continue to delay his court date.

[Fortybox]

If these rights were sacred then trump supporters would kick him in the balls for attacking journalism and protesting athletes the way he does. I've also never seen jacked up pick ups flying the Molon Labe flag out there protesting DUI checkpoints. Manafort is clutching at straws here. I believe his tenant or someone let the FBI into the shed?

Then the legal argument and strategy will fall flat on its face. That's why there is a legal process.

And it's troubling you give a conditional statement about whether or not the rights are sacred. The 4th amendment is extremely important but it's not surprising to me that liberals such as yourself want to dismantle that one too. There's no IF about that in my book.