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Thread: Russia Investigation Heating Up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    So I actually really enjoyed this post- the free-wheeling style of it and attempts to explain something that's caused a lot of hand-wringing. (Namely- Manafort's inexplicable legal defense strategy right now)

    But there's a big gap in the argument. It's actually pretty unlikely that Mueller's team will need to disclose any classified information about their investigation in order to succeed against the jurisdiction-based motion to dismiss. Between publicly available information, existing case law (US v Libby- as the author points out), and the broad mandate that established the special prosecutor- there's likely more than enough information to deal with the motion.

    But even if Mueller's team does end up having to present details on their legal strategy re: Manafort, there's absolutely no obligation to share that with Manafort and his attorneys. Being a plaintiff in a case against the Executive doesn't grant you defacto high level security clearance. What would likely end up happening is Mueller's team would give the judge a high level description of how Manafort fits in, and the Judge would rule with that information in mind but without having to share any of it with Manafort's team. FOIA lawyers usually try to avoid having the government disclose any classified information in their cases for this reason- it puts them at a big disadvantage.

    Ultimately the Judiciary isn't going to force the Executive to compromise an ongoing investigation. When it comes to sharing classified information, they tend to side with the Executive.

    So I think we're back down to three possible explanations for Manafort's obtinance:

    1) He's fighting back to show Trump that he doesn't want to sell him out and is hoping Trump will extend the pardon that was dangled in front of him by Dowd
    2) He's terrified of the Russian government. Steel (and what are assumed to be some of his sources) are reportedly on a GRU hit list right now for their role in things. Imagine what they'd do to Manafort if they thought he was going to talk
    3) He's as much of an egotistical sociopath as we all assume he is based on the kind of work he does and is actually convinced of his own invincibility.
    Last edited by time4fun; 03-30-2018 at 11:03 AM.

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    Manafort also knows Trump well enough not to trust him with his life, given at how quickly Trump throws people under the best to protect his own neck.

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    Remember when Sam Nunberg was initially refusing to cooperate with Mueller and the special counsel against Stone because he was such a great mentor to him and he considered him family?

    Roger Stone: Sam Nunberg Is a ‘Lying Asshole’ and ‘Psycho’

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-...e-and-psycho/?

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    Also, this happened last night, no idea who the guy is though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nd-farage-ally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Also, this happened last night, no idea who the guy is though.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nd-farage-ally
    OMGOMGOMG THIS IS IT GUYS!!!! FINALLY FOR REAL SERIOUSLY IT!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    Remember when Sam Nunberg was initially refusing to cooperate with Mueller and the special counsel against Stone because he was such a great mentor to him and he considered him family?

    Roger Stone: Sam Nunberg Is a ‘Lying Asshole’ and ‘Psycho’

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-...e-and-psycho/?
    A new report in The Guardian just confirmed the lede sentence of British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s Trump Russia dossier, which claimed that Russian efforts to recruit Donald Trump stretched back five years before the 2016 election.
    Igor Krutoy, who was a Putin campaign surrogate in this month’s Russian sham “election” and close associate of the Agalarov family, met with Donald Trump in June 2011.
    The Trump Organization sent a scout to Riga, Latvia in 2010 which eventually led to the four-hour meeting that took place at Trump Tower with Krutoy, and two other Latvian businessmen who wanted to build a Vegas-style hotel and entertainment venue.

    Donald Trump had begun planning his presidential campaign only two months earlier in April 2011 by commissioning polls and hiring longtime confidante Roger Stone, along with sidekick Sam Nunberg.
    They keep confirming pieces of Steele's dossier. That's got to get to the trumplicans who have been saying all along that it's fake.

    https://washingtonpress.com/2018/03/...-main-premise/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    They keep confirming pieces of Steele's dossier. That's got to get to the trumplicans who have been saying all along that it's fake.
    But Parkbandit, Methais and Wrathbringer are very sure that the dossier is fake news! Trump, Fox, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones told them so! Why won't you stop lying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashliana View Post
    But Parkbandit, Methais and Wrathbringer are very sure that the dossier is fake news! Trump, Fox, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones told them so! Why won't you stop lying?
    But Ashliana, cwolff, time4fun and Androidpk are very sure that the dossier is real news! Hillary, CNN, mediamatters.com and twitter told them so! Why won't you stop lying?



    I'm going to say Ashliana is "Oppsie".

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    It is Parkbandits professional opinion as a hot tub installer that the dossier is totally fake and without merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashliana View Post
    But Parkbandit, Methais and Wrathbringer are very sure that the dossier is fake news! Trump, Fox, Matt Drudge and Alex Jones told them so! Why won't you stop lying?
    You're retarded.

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