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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Wow, you believe the entire problem in this country is completely one side. Amazing how brainwashed you are.
    More deflection. More bullshit. More blah blah blah. With a little bit of ad hominem thrown in. If I'm wrong, Support your idea. Reference research. Put up some data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    More deflection. More bullshit. More blah blah blah. With a little bit of ad hominem thrown in. If I'm wrong, Support your idea. Reference research. Put up some data.
    What, exactly, am I deflecting? Tell me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    I am responding directly to the post you made about this topic. You are watering down your defense by making some sort of "whataboutism" or "everyone does it" argument. You literally went from saying they were treating the kid fairly to saying, "Well, everyone does it"
    In my life, what I saw, was adults spreading the anti-bullying message (with a video of a black kid beating up a white kid of course) while simultaneously spreading funny memes about his "guns", lesbian skinheads, tide pod eaters blah blah blah. In fact, I've not seen hardly any legitimate responses to points he's made. They're trying to discredit him through all those fallacies that we see here so much.
    Either you aren't understanding what I'm saying or I'm not explaining it properly. I was speaking about the media, not the entire internet. Everything I've seen has been in response to his comments, not about him being a survivor. I'm not making the everyone does it argument in regards to the media. I'm saying that everyone else on the internet can be assholes and you are holding the right to the lowest common denominator but holding the left to only the highest denominator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    What, exactly, am I deflecting? Tell me.
    And now you're just being argumentative.

    Gel: I heard he wasn't at school
    Me: Responds about that telling gel about the conspiracy theory bullshit (simultaneously Gel confirms that he was at school but is still being manipulated by the "media")
    Gel: You're a bot
    Me: You're deflecting
    Gel: You're brainwashed
    Me: Ad hominem and deflecting
    Gel: Tell me exactly what I'm deflecting
    Last edited by cwolff; 03-29-2018 at 08:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    Either you aren't understanding what I'm saying or I'm not explaining it properly. I was speaking about the media, not the entire internet. Everything I've seen has been in response to his comments, not about him being a survivor. I'm not making the everyone does it argument in regards to the media. I'm saying that everyone else on the internet can be assholes and you are holding the right to the lowest common denominator but holding the left to only the highest denominator.
    I'm not holding the left to anything denominator. They are not relevant to this conversation since we're discussing the right wing reaction to the Parkland kids. We can have that conversation if you want, but I'm saying that the fake news is a specific right wing problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    And now you're just being argumentative.

    Gel: I heard he wasn't at school
    Me: Responds about that telling gel about the conspiracy theory bullshit (simultaneously Gel confirms that he was at school but is still being manipulated by the "media")
    Gel: You're a bot
    Me: You're deflecting
    Gel: You're brainwashed
    Me: Ad hominem and deflecting
    Gel: Tell me exactly what I'm deflecting
    And prior to your "Conspiracy theory bullshit" response looked it up and saw that was false and even posted as such.

    Again, what am I deflecting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I mean, half the shit you say, I'm not sure you aren't a Russian bot.
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    LOL I get that you're joking...I think. I hope it's just a joke and not a deflection.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    You don't seem to realize the Russian bots throw out stupidity and rumors from both sides of the aisle.
    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Whatever they throw, the right picks it up and passes exponentially more than the left or the center. There is only false equivalence here. Not real. It's not a "both sides of the aisle" problem. It's a right wing problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    Wow, you believe the entire problem in this country is completely one side. Amazing how brainwashed you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    More deflection. More bullshit. More blah blah blah. With a little bit of ad hominem thrown in. If I'm wrong, Support your idea. Reference research. Put up some data.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    What, exactly, am I deflecting? Tell me.
    Here you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Here you go.
    Use your words. Where am I deflecting? I agreed there are bot on the right. And they are also on the left.

    You disagreed and said only the right is to blame.

    Please, explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    I'm not holding the left to anything denominator. They are not relevant to this conversation since we're discussing the right wing reaction to the Parkland kids. We can have that conversation if you want, but I'm saying that the fake news is a specific right wing problem.
    I think most of the responses have been about his stances on gun control. Sure some super far right wing places have said some mean things about him. He thrust himself into the spotlight after a tragic event and people are acting like anything he says can't be criticized because he was there for the shooting. I disagree. I've said I don't think he really cares about school shootings and that he just cares about guns. I arrived at this conclusion by his response to the clear backpacks.
    Last edited by drauz; 03-29-2018 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drauz View Post
    I think most of the responses have been about his stances on gun control. Sure some super far right wing places have said some mean things about him. He thrust himself into the spotlight after a tragic event and people are acting like anything he says can't be criticized because he was there for the shooting.
    Sure it's open season to criticize his positions. By super right wing we're talking about Fox and fox "news" employees. It's not just crazy Alex Jones stuff. Even elected officials comparing them to Nazis, calling them lesbians. It's a multi pronged attack from the right. They are throwing everything but the kitchen sink at these kids. Soros, "evil media", crisis actors...it's no holds barred anything goes.

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