Things that made you frown today (Political Version)

[cwolff]

What do you think is more extreme? Banning a constitutional right or clear backpacks?

Banning a right of course. This clear backpack thing is horrible though. On many levels.

[drauz]

Banning a right of course. This clear backpack thing is horrible though. On many levels.

Explain why?

[cwolff]

Explain why?

I don't get it. What am I missing here? You really want me to explain the difference between what's essentially a dress code issue and the constitution?

Now if this kid is able to make a 1st amendment case out of this, and it doesn't get laughed out of court, then we have something to consider.

[drauz]

I don't get it. What am I missing here? You really want me to explain the difference between what's essentially a dress code issue and the constitution?

Now if this kid is able to make a 1st amendment case out of this, and it doesn't get laughed out of court, then we have something to consider.

Why the clear backpack is stupid.

[cwolff]

Why the clear backpack is stupid.

You think its a good idea?

[drauz]

You think its a good idea?

I don't think its a horrible idea.

[cwolff]

I don't think its a horrible idea.

We could try it in places like Parkland and see what happens. It probably won't hurt. Kids will get used to it. They'll start cutting out pipe shaped holes in the pages of their books to smuggle contraband.

Check this out:

Although several other states rejected proposals to build Verrückt, lax amusement ride regulations in Kansas permitted its construction at the Schlitterbahn water park, reported local Fox affiliate WDAF-TV.

This popped up on Facebook recently. This is what I've been talking about with how we get laws. Park owners are being accused of designing it themselves to save money on engineering and math. Now Kansas will probably have to make stricter laws because that's how laws happen.

http://huffp.st/uMygi03

[drauz]

We could try it in places like Parkland and see what happens. It probably won't hurt. Kids will get used to it. They'll start cutting out pipe shaped holes in the pages of their books to smuggle contraband.

So you're saying people will find a way to get around laws no matter what?

This popped up on Facebook recently. This is what I've been talking about with how we get laws. Park owners are being accused of designing it themselves to save money on engineering and math. Now Kansas will probably have to make stricter laws because that's how laws happen.

It really is great for this discussion because we have a bunch of people talking with no expertise (like these school kids) and just relying on trial and error but without knowing whats already been tried.

[cwolff]

We know what's been tried and the assault weapon ban had a positive impact on mass shootings.

Edit:And no, about the getting around things. You'll never stop crime 100%. We do know ways to deter it.

The article is an example of laws working. Dude had to find a state that didn't have laws against his half assed engineering

[drauz]

We know what's been tried and the assault weapon ban had a positive impact on mass shootings.

Looks pretty stead to me. Thats from Vox btw.

I don't particularly care if its a mass murder or "run of the mill" murder though. One just causes more emotion because of how they're covered.