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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash187 View Post
    So let me get this straight? I pay taxes and my taxes go to all forms of the government including Healthcare for veterans. Yet somehow I'm not paying with my taxes for said trans veterans?
    Correct. Because there are no costs (healthcare or otherwise) necessarily associated with trans people (veterans or otherwise).
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    Sincere question: what is the criticism of Kristen Beck based on? Afaik she was decorated SEAL who earned a bronze star and purple heart during her 20 years of service. Seems like someone who would be very difficult to replace. I honestly don't understand how banning her improves our military.
    He waited until after he was out to do it, which is fine with me, to be honest. I think his effectiveness if he had done it WHILE IN would have been lower though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latrinsorm View Post
    Correct. Because there are no costs (healthcare or otherwise) necessarily associated with trans people (veterans or otherwise).
    If there is no cost, why did the APA label it a disorder to get insurance companies pay for treatment for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    If there is no cost, why did the APA label it a disorder to get insurance companies pay for treatment for it?
    Not everyone undergoes gender reassignment surgery- hence the word "necessarily".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    I'm not at all saying "fags are ruining society" nor am I trying to make any religious comparisons. It's fairly easy to look through history and see these trends Egypt, Rome, The American and French revolutionary period etc. You can find that the more excessive living among the wealthy is towards the collapse of those societies. It's pretty easy to think it through...

    With an isolated tribe there would be heavy inbreeding causing all kinds of genetic rifts, isolated religion and I would imagine it being a South American tribe there has probably been plenty of drug use that's a part of the culture. I would also think that the daily action of that society would be more focused towards things of need rather than "pleasing the senses".

    Camille Paglia:

    Oh give me a break. Could you not find a Klan wizard to illustrate the point you were trying to make? That's Chamille Paglia. She's not a sociologist. She's an art teacher from Philly who gained notoriety by taking the "feminist" standpoint of saying that women who dress provocatively are asking to be raped.

    And I fail to find your connection between "excessive living of the wealthy" and "transgender rights". As far as I know, transgender people are generally not considered the wealthy elite, but do generally tend to be ostracized from society and have horrible quality of living. If you're equating "lavish living" with "income inequality and caste systems", then sure, that generally does lead to overthrowing the wealthy elite historically, but it has nothing to do with transgender people. Blaming transgender persons for the overthrow of France or Rome completely ignores the underlying issues that cause the downfall of a society and instead focuses on a statistic that may or may not exist. It's like blaming a starving peasant because Marie Antoinette wanted to get her vagina bedazzled with diamonds. I've seen no paper suggesting that the number of transexual persons increases as a society heads towards revolution or ruin, because such a paper doesn't exist, because that notion is insane.

    But if you're taking your anthropological "evidence" from an art teacher in Philly, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to convince you otherwise. It doesn't seem worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by time4fun View Post
    Not everyone undergoes gender reassignment surgery- hence the word "necessarily".
    Oh gee that totally makes it a non-existent problem then. Thread's over guy's time4genderreassignmentsurgery is the smartest one here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumplicker View Post
    Oh give me a break. Could you not find a Klan wizard to illustrate the point you were trying to make? That's Chamille Paglia. She's not a sociologist. She's an art teacher from Philly who gained notoriety by taking the "feminist" standpoint of saying that women who dress provocatively are asking to be raped.

    And I fail to find your connection between "excessive living of the wealthy" and "transgender rights". As far as I know, transgender people are generally not considered the wealthy elite, but do generally tend to be ostracized from society and have horrible quality of living. If you're equating "lavish living" with "income inequality and caste systems", then sure, that generally does lead to overthrowing the wealthy elite historically, but it has nothing to do with transgender people. Blaming transgender persons for the overthrow of France or Rome completely ignores the underlying issues that cause the downfall of a society and instead focuses on a statistic that may or may not exist. It's like blaming a starving peasant because Marie Antoinette wanted to get her vagina bedazzled with diamonds. I've seen no paper suggesting that the number of transexual persons increases as a society heads towards revolution or ruin, because such a paper doesn't exist, because that notion is insane.

    But if you're taking your anthropological "evidence" from an art teacher in Philly, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to convince you otherwise. It doesn't seem worthwhile.
    Who's blaming anyone?

    I get it, you have no argument so you fall back to "you're a NAZI!" why am I not surprised?

    In 2005, Paglia was ranked No. 20 on a Prospect/Foreign Policy poll of the world's top 100 public intellectuals.[4]
    FFS she has a PhD from Yale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    If there is no cost, why did the APA label it a disorder to get insurance companies pay for treatment for it?
    It's not monetary cost that we should be talking about, it's about risking human lives for a social experiment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    Who's blaming anyone?

    I get it, you have no argument so you fall back to "you're a NAZI!" why am I not surprised?
    Quote me the part where I said anything about Nazis please. I'll wait.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neveragain View Post
    FFS she has a PhD from Yale.
    She has a PhD in English, and has been teaching at an Art College that doesn't even have an Anthropology program for the past 30 years. I wouldn't take a medical diagnosis from her any more than I would take an anthropological opinion without some sort of study or corroborating evidence. Would you trust Bill Cosby if he told you that you could mark the downfall of a civilization by "trans mania" without any information to back up that claim? He has a PhD too, and arguably one more appropriate to make such a statement without being questioned than an Art Teacher.

    If Stephen Hawking came to you and told you that you had cancer because a crystal he wears was giving off a weird chakra, would you take him at his word? Or would you maybe want to know what makes him think that, since he's an astrophysicist and not a MD. Or at very least might you want a second opinion from someone trained in that field of study?

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    Quote me the part where I said anything about Nazis please. I'll wait.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Paglia

    She's been writing books and researching these topics for decades.

    I can spend hours linking information that agrees with her.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse

    Our society is in collapse, every sign points at it. Dudes in dresses is just a small part of all the red flags.


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