2016 Election Prediction Thread

[Neveragain]

Tell me again why me and my family shouldn't be terrified right now.

You should be, you're breaking the fucking law. It's really that simple, you're harboring a felon.

[time4fun]

I have insurance thru my employer. My insurance isn't subsidized in the least and I live in a very expensive part of the country (not SF but it can be hard). Thats a bad line of reasoning. He also can't vote because hes an undocumented person, should all undocumented people have that right. I mean they live here. I would be willing to bet that amount he pays in doesn't equal the amount he gets out, that isn't earning his keep.

He's been here almost his entire life. He's worked and paid taxes. He didn't choose to come here, and it's not his fault that my step-dad wouldn't sign the paperwork. I'm not sure what the sin is here- is it that he didn't go back to a country he doesn't really know? That he chose to stay with his family? We couldn't afford to just pick up and move to the Philippines while paperwork was processing. Is the sin here that we didn't force him to go to a strange country to live on his own anyway?

Should our family be torn apart over that? Should he go somewhere where he may not be able to get proper medical care?

Maybe the world would be a better place if my family were broken up, and if I only got to see him a hand-full of times for the rest of my life. Maybe the world would be a better place if he just died of diabetes-related complications. We may very well find out soon.

Here's what I do know- not a single person reading this would have acted any differently than we did if they had found themselves in the same situation.

But given the conversation that has gone on in this thread- don't tell me that I shouldn't be up at night staring at the ceiling. This is the nightmare my family woke up to today. I hope our fear and our pain is buying you something wonderful.

[Androidpk]

I dont follow NH senate races whata wrong with Hassan?

She doesn't want to legalize marijuana and didn't want to allow veterans access to medicinal mj.

[Back]

Nope. Need to recall your computer thread?

Insults, lack of effort, and idle threats make you, as I recall, a waste of my time. Have a good evening.

[Gelston]

Insults, lack of effort, and idle threats make you, as I recall, a waste of my time. Have a good evening.

"Idle threats" what threats have I made against anyone on here, ever?

[Stumplicker]

you're harboring a felon.

I'm not sure you know what words mean.

[drauz]

He's been here almost his entire life. He's worked and paid taxes. He didn't choose to come here, and it's not his fault that my step-dad wouldn't sign the paperwork. I'm not sure what the sin is here- is it that he didn't go back to a country he doesn't really know? That he chose to stay with his family? We couldn't afford to just pick up and move to the Philippines while paperwork was processing. Is the sin here that we didn't force him to go to a strange country to live on his own anyway?

Should our family be torn apart over that? Should he go somewhere where he may not be able to get proper medical care?

Maybe the world would be a better place if my family were broken up, and if I only got to see him a hand-full of times for the rest of my life. Maybe the world would be a better place if he just died of diabetes-related complications. We may very well find out soon.

Here's what I do know- not a single person reading this would have acted any differently than we did if they had found themselves in the same situation.

But given the conversation that has gone on in this thread- don't tell me that I shouldn't be up at night staring at the ceiling.

Not everything is black and white. Its nothing he did that caused this situation, if anything it sounds like a sin for your step-dad. Your brother is just paying the price. Welcome to having a family. If my imaginary wife was to run up a credit card bill that is under my name and then we get a divorce, I still have to pay for that bill.

Its a tough situation, I will grant you that. You do have options, they just aren't the ones you want. You could pay to have him live in the Philippines for however long is needed and help to sponsor his green card. Yes, it would be tough time for him living in a strange country he doesn't know about but it is an option.

Your situation isn't everyones situation though. I would dare to call it the outlier. If one person is found not guilty of theft should we then let everyone off the hook for theft?

[Shaps]

He's been here almost his entire life. He's worked and paid taxes. He didn't choose to come here, and it's not his fault that my step-dad wouldn't sign the paperwork. I'm not sure what the sin is here- is it that he didn't go back to a country he doesn't really know? That he chose to stay with his family? We couldn't afford to just pick up and move to the Philippines while paperwork was processing. Is the sin here that we didn't force him to go to a strange country to live on his own anyway?

Should our family be torn apart over that? Should he go somewhere where he may not be able to get proper medical care?

Maybe the world would be a better place if my family were broken up, and if I only got to see him a hand-full of times for the rest of my life. Maybe the world would be a better place if he just died of diabetes-related complications. We may very well find out soon.

Here's what I do know- not a single person reading this would have acted any differently than we did if they had found themselves in the same situation.

But given the conversation that has gone on in this thread- don't tell me that I shouldn't be up at night staring at the ceiling. This is the nightmare my family woke up to today. I hope our fear and our pain is buying you something wonderful.

The one thing I will take issue with is the concept when you said.. "Is it a sin here that we didn't force him to go to a strange country to live on his own anyway". I don't consider it a sin, but it is illegal. Living apart from any loved one is tough, but people persevere (spelling?).

I spent nearly 7 years overseas, away from family and friends. It was my choice. It was a sacrifice I was willing to make in order to achieve what I wanted out of life. Your family had a choice and sacrifice to make, in order to get what you wanted too. So your argument about the "sacrifice" of living apart from a loved one for a few years, doesn't really sway me in this argument. EVERYONE makes sacrifices for what they want for themselves and their family. It is universal, so don't think your family is unique in that regards.

That goes to the heart of what I'm saying to you. NO ONE wishes harm on you or your family, but EVERYONE makes sacrifices and decisions in their life to get what they want or need out of life.

Again, I wish you and your family all the best. Just don't be so blind to others thoughts or trivialize what they have had to do in life to survive. Ya know?

[Tgo01]

But given the conversation that has gone on in this thread- don't tell me that I shouldn't be up at night staring at the ceiling. This is the nightmare my family woke up to today. I hope our fear and our pain is buying you something wonderful.

Your brother has been living in this country illegally almost his entire life and it never occurred to your family before tonight that one day he might get caught and deported? Really? That thought never crossed your mind?

Well shit, I guess this is just proof that the US is entirely too lenient in its immigration policies that you never once thought this might be a problem until Trump was elected. You do realize Trump isn't proposing any new laws in this regard, right? He's simply stating he wants to enforce the laws already on the books.

And let's get real, I doubt Trump will do much more about illegal aliens than Obama did.

[drauz]

Your brother has been living in this country illegally almost his entire life and it never occurred to your family before tonight that one day he might get caught and deported? Really? That thought never crossed your mind?

Well shit, I guess this is just proof that the US is entirely too lenient in its immigration policies that you never once thought this might be a problem until Trump was elected. You do realize Trump isn't proposing any new laws in this regard, right? He's simply stating he wants to enforce the laws already on the books.

And let's get real, I doubt Trump will do much more about illegal aliens than Obama did.

He's building a wall to keep them in! /joking