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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    1 person isn't statistically significant.
    Well one person in one state in one year since marijuana became legal for recreational use. When does human life become significant?

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    Did any of them die?
    You guys are getting pretty morbid.

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    What were their symptoms?
    I have no idea, I didn't interview the kids.

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    Did they actually go to the ICU or just brought into the emergency room?
    Yes. ICU. That's why I said they were in the ICU.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 02-20-2015 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Why are we going to agree on that? :/
    Because even using your own numbers what I said holds true. Guns and alcohol kill more than marijuana.

    Are you advocating for all homes to have gun locks on every firearm? Are you also advocating for all alcohol to be kept in a locked container? If so, I would be fine with the condition of all edibles being kept in a locked container. We should also keep all medicines, over the counter and otherwise in a locked container, as I imagine the deaths from accidental overdose by children exceed that of marijuana consumption.

    We either care about the safety of children across the board or we are just singling out marijuana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    Because even using your own numbers what I said holds true. Guns and alcohol kill more than marijuana.
    This is also because guns are legal in every state and so far we have a whooping two states and 2 years worth of data to pull marijuana overdose on children from. Also I didn't provide any numbers for children dying on accidental alcohol poisoning

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    Are you advocating for all homes to have gun locks on every firearm?
    Sounds like a good idea to me. Or a gun safe.

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    Are you also advocating for all alcohol to be kept in a locked container?
    Sounds good to me.

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    If so, I would be fine with the condition of all edibles being kept in a locked container.
    Sounds good to me. That and no cookies and candy.
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    I disagree with your last part. We would have to do away with flavored alcohol to have parity. I would argue firearms are universally appealing to children, but am willing to concede the point none are specifically geared towards them. Perhaps no "fun" colored guns, such as those ugly hot pink ones. If you're willing to do that, then I'd be willing to do away with cookie/candy-based edibles.

    As an aside, medical marijuana, and by extension, edibles are present in far more than 2 states. As the amount of sales are in the millions, I would claim their presence is in no way inconsequential.
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    I bet Tg would be interested to know Colorado is already working on this...State Bill 1366 was signed by the governor and will soon go into effect:

    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1366_enr.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    I bet Tg would be interested to know Colorado is already working on this...State Bill 1366 was signed by the governor and will soon go into effect:

    http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...e=1366_enr.pdf
    No level of oversight is sufficient in his argument. He is for absolute prohibition on all snack-based edibles. To get it he is willing to accept an awful lot of government intrusion into his household, but at least he is consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallen View Post
    No level of oversight is sufficient in his argument. He is for absolute prohibition on all snack-based edibles. To get it he is willing to accept an awful lot of government intrusion into his household, but at least he is consistent.
    Oh no, I get it. I think it's funny that he's just now talking about it though, considering children admitted to the hospital with marijuana "overdoses" has steadily increased every year since 2009, but it's still a statistically insignificant number. The whole "every life is precious" crap is just that. If that's the case, there are hundreds of things to spend your time campaigning for/against that would provide greater returns.

    Make it a law that if your kid goes to the hospital and has THC in his system, you go to jail for child abuse and lose your kid. Don't try to tell adults they can't have brownies because some kid might eat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    Oh no, I get it. I think it's funny that he's just now talking about it though, considering children admitted to the hospital with marijuana "overdoses" has steadily increased every year since 2009, but it's still a statistically insignificant number.
    I asked you when does human life become significant. Answer me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    The whole "every life is precious" crap is just that.
    Why is "every life is precious" crap? :/

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    If that's the case, there are hundreds of things to spend your time campaigning for/against that would provide greater returns.
    In terms of effectiveness versus cost I think this would be a slam dunk.

    Effectiveness: A lot fewer kids end up in the hospital. Heck, going by the stories we have read a lot fewer adults end up in the hospital or dead.
    Cost: Nothing.
    Inconvenience: Talk about negligible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    Make it a law that if your kid goes to the hospital and has THC in his system, you go to jail for child abuse and lose your kid.
    I think it would entirely depend on how the kid got THC in his system (at a friend's house, from the local and awesome child drug dealer, etc) but if you're talking about a parent leaving their THC candy around and their child ate it I agree, some sort of law should be applicable. Then again you run the risk of the parents doing nothing and hoping the child doesn't need medical care because they don't want to get in trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    Don't try to tell adults they can't have brownies because some kid might eat them.
    Who said anything about adults not eating THC brownies? I'm saying not to sell and market THC brownies. People have been making hash brownies long before Colorado even entertained the notion of making marijuana legal for recreational use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Androidpk View Post
    I can only comment on the known ld50 for cannabis. I imagine even if the amount is lower for a 2 year old you're still looking at pounds worth of cannabis.
    I found the LD50 as 800 mg/kg, I've found citations of 500 mg edibles, toddlers weigh about 30 pounds, thus...

    13.6 kg * 800 mg / kg = 10,880 mg * 1 edible / 500 mg = 22 edibles

    I don't think too many toddlers are going to blow through 22 cookies. But it's not pounds, it's about half a pound.
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    So now it's only a problem if they're bought premade? Lol tgo logic. Wow.

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