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Please, debate the specific hypothetical with said hole so large.Originally Posted by Kembal
Edit: I think it's just difficult to believe "there will be no death panels" from the same guy that said "if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it," when it's obvious that "cost effectiveness/death panels" must have a critical role in order to prop up this farce financially for as long as possible.
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Considering there are neither typos nor misquotes in my post, I have to wonder if it was you that was drunk.American history.Source?You can say their position is morally wrong if you want, that's a statement of how their position relates to an object external to them. You can't say it presents a conflict of interest, because that's a statement of how their positions relates internally.Here's the issue with your total lack of comprehension. What rights are those, exactly? The right to kill people because they don't fit your definition of what a person is? Look...I'm all for abortion. I get tags every year to hunt deer, because deer aren't smart enough to monitor their own population, and breed indiscriminately. I would like to think that humans are smart enough to do what deer don't, but apparently we aren't. I support abortion from a scientific standpoint, because I'm ultimately a psychopath and don't attach any moral or religious stigma to the taking of a life in and of itself. I also recognize the scientific fact that, if not for outside intervention, a fertilized seed will eventually become a human, barring the relatively slim chances of various natural medical impedance.Yes, to ensure your rights you have to force other people not to violate them. There is no logical conclusion, because this is still a statement of premises. The freedom of religion does not imply any other freedoms, guaranteeing the freedom of speech does not force us to guarantee any others.Except that it's not "keep your laws off my body", it's "make laws about my body that others have to follow because I benefit more from it". I'm sure you're intelligent enough to see the distinction, and follow it to it's logical conclusion.Indeed? Indeed??? Basing our system on self-evident truths is the exact opposite of basing it on logic. I think I now know what the problem is, though: what's your definition of the word "logic"?Indeed...and what truths did they hold to be self-evident?The Articles of Confederation, most notably article II. Compare and contrast, if you will:Wait wait...the English Crown was a limited federal government? Wow, man. I...I must say, Latrin, for the first time ever you've struck me speechless.
"Each state retains every power which is not expressly delegated to the United States."
"The powers not delegated to the United States are reserved to the states."
Hasta pronto, porque la vida no termina aqui...
America, stop pushing. I know what I'm doing.
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what? I'm feeding into the capitalist mentality perfectly.
I got that job, by the way
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On the topic of this actual thread: My insurance company keeps calling me from an automated phone service. They ask you if "now is a good time" and to press one if it is. so I press one. I wait, and wait, and fucking wait for 20 minutes until someone picks up. This person proceeds to hang up on me, I'm sure by accident, so I call back... another 20 fucking minutes... I finally get to talk to a person, she asks me to confirm my information -- confirmed, alright. Now I have to answer a health questionnaire, okay... so, I start answering her questions. She proceeds to ask me each question AT LEAST twice, and responds skeptically to almost all my answers. "Are you pregnant?" "no" "are you sure?" "yes"... my personal favorite, "Do you wear a seatbelt?" "Yes, absolutely" (this is something I do before I even turn my car on) "Are you sure you wear one, every time?" "YES IM FUCKING SURE LADY". She was also clearly the slowest typist ever, I could hear her hunting and pecking over the phone. Also, while I was on hold I'm pretty positive I could hear other people talking in the background of their automated messages, idk if it was a bad recording or if somehow the line was bleeding through, but seriously. I was hearing someone saying yes and no to questions the whole time.
If they like their automated calling system so fucking much, why don't they put these questions into an automated questionnaire? I could have easily answered yes or no using press 1 or 2, and press 3 for more clarification or if you need to speak to someone specifically. It was so fucking bulky and took me over an hour to deal with... I was at work during this time, fortunately no customers came in, but seriously. I've been getting this call twice a day for about a week now--always during working hours, always twice in a row if I don't pick up.
or better yet, make an online log in so I can answer these on the computer. :|
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I got that job, by the way
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tol·er·ance
ˈtäl(ə)rəns/
noun
noun: tolerance
1.
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
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If you like your insurance company you can keep them.
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I got that job, by the way
When I got insurance (pre-Obama) the insurance agent for some reason did half the questionnaire when we met in person then called me back to do the rest while apparently eating a marble sandwich. The best part:
him "have you ever had mumble? no I don't think so, okay next question..."
me "er, wait... what?"
him "have you ever had mumble?"
me "Sorry, I'm not getting that last word."
him "you ORGASMMMM"
This is an inside joke. Take it up with Obama.
Hasta pronto, porque la vida no termina aqui...
America, stop pushing. I know what I'm doing.
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You've obviously ignored the countless times that I've agreed they were awful the way they were implemented. All of this was brand new. Of course there were going to be hiccups, and when you're talking about a brand new system of government for an entire nation, any "hiccup" is going to have huge repercussions. This doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of good there, too. Instead of blindly taking it as a pass or fail, pick out the good bits, figure out why the bad bits aren't working, and go from there. In a sense we did that, but a lot of caveats were made to sign the deal...things that I believe are just now gaining enough steam to be dangerous. Stone is stronger than water, but gives way to it over time.
Lol...like what, specifically?I would love to have any one of a number of alternate plans. ACA could've been much better but Obama gave away most of its value in a year of fruitless negotiations with Republicans.
Brinksmanship at it's finest. What really makes you think "American Conservatives" want to do things that are harmful to people? Framing it this way does nothing to progress equal discourse. It puts people on the defensive, because you're basically saying the other side is evil and wants to do harmful things because they're evil. The reality is we all want the same result, we just disagree on how to get there. Try making a logical argument instead of a base insult.He shouldn't have been so naive. American conservatives don't want successful reform.
lol.Now wacky reactionary nonsense will be proposed, Obama will veto it, Democrats will actually undeservedly look good, and it'll eventually work to give Congress back.
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Latrinsorm has phone sex with complete strangers. While they're eating food.
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