-40 I win!Originally Posted by Androidpk
And now I think about it, that's not winning at all.
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-40 I win!
And now I think about it, that's not winning at all.
Last edited by Johnny Five; 01-07-2015 at 11:19 AM.
tol·er·ance
ˈtäl(ə)rəns/
noun
noun: tolerance
1.
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
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No, it isn't :/
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below 70 is pretty cold to me.
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8:30, tonight, Goldbergs.
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wow there is some abortion clinic bomber on this site. someone is fucking insane.
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I win.
Casual fast food use cannot cause obesity. If you have one Big Mac, you have not altered your risk of obesity. The same cannot be said for casual marijuana use and schizophrenia.This is not an accurate depiction of my position. I am using the term schizophrenia only for itself. In the past I have repeatedly highlighted the interesting fact that marijuana is linked only with psychotic disorders and not affective ones. Affective disorders are clearly bad, so if I was doing what you were saying, why would I explicitly say marijuana DOESN'T cause them?
Since you bring up your personal experience, suppose you were guaranteed that your child would develop schizophrenia. Would you subject them to a treatment that had a 1 in 5000 chance of killing them if you were also guaranteed it would cure them? If I had a child, I am pretty confident I would do so if it spared them my mental illnesses.I can't speak for America, but I believe it should be because I have investigated the facts of the matter. This is usually a better approach than believing rhetoric.Kaldonis was operating under the mistaken belief that marijuana use and schizophrenia are uncorrelated. If you hold that belief, my contention that there is a causal link makes no sense. As I say, though, that belief is mistaken. I assumed that Kaldonis became aware of this, which is why he never responded to my question asking him to back it up.
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Dhe'nari Sorcerer
Where is this study that unequivocally proves that the smoking of one joint results in an automatic increase in the chance of schizophrenia again? Could you provide that link?
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Certainly! The best link was Hall's 2014 meta-study in Addiction because that really covered everything, but that's no longer free to the public. The most important single study for my money is still Zammit's 2002 in the BMJ, because he was the first to control for family history and other drug use, and because his sample size dwarfs all others except the recent New Zealand work. (I'm sure you will note that his finding is only 2 per 1000 instead of my oft-cited 5 per 1000, but that is because the research has continued since then and the picture has grown bleaker.) I am operating under the assumption that his study will be free to view for you, if this turns out to be false please let me know!
Hasta pronto, porque la vida no termina aqui...
America, stop pushing. I know what I'm doing.
Dhe'nari Sorcerer
So one study that is no longer public, and another that is 12 years old is your definitive proof that 1 joint causes 0.2 now? % increase chance in schizophrenia? Am I getting that right?
I'm also reading that the most at risk from marijuana according to these studies are adolescents. The legalization movement in America is, to the best of my knowledge, setting the minimum age one can purchase the drug at 21. I wonder how it would affect these numbers if you removed the 15-20 cohort?
Hmmm
"Study Says It’s Easier For Teens To Buy Marijuana Than Beer"
http://blog.norml.org/2009/08/28/stu...ana-than-beer/
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