Climate Change Report

[Warriorbird]

Yes but what are the specifics? Do we just keep reducing fossil fuels and greenhouse emissions until the scientists say "Okay, that's enough"?

I linked some. Frankly, I think our reliance on fossil fuels makes us make geopolitically stupid choices. I agree with conservatives that many of the measures proposed are ridiculous however.

Of course. If we are already doomed, it is far more difficult to interweave that into a political agenda and have people literally buy into it.

The only way this movement will work is that the crisis is underway and it's very, very dire.. but thankfully, all we have to do is {insert agenda here} immediately and then we can SLOWLY take back our planet.

The "doing better for the environment is only ever political" fallacy. About what I expected.

[Laviticas]

BS Latrine, you compaired it to a speeding vehicle racing towards a cliff. Not once have you or anyone of these "climatologists" provided us with a model of the normal climate.

So you're saying they were lying to us about the coming ice age in the late 70's ? And why should we believe their bullshit now. I'm willing to take the risk of your trumpeting of doom and gloom over a carbon tax. Now if you believers want to take action go for it, but we know you won't because your full of shit.

[waywardgs]

"Hey, did you hear that astronomers found a new planet orbiting that star over there?"
"Oh, really? That's neat."

"Hey, did you hear climatologists have noticed that human activity is affecting the environment?"
"FUCK THOSE PSYCHO LEFT FAGGOT FUCKS! GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN!"

[Warriorbird]

"Hey, did you hear that astronomers found a new planet orbiting that star over there?"
"Oh, really? That's neat."

"Hey, did you hear climatologists have noticed that human activity is affecting the environment?"
"FUCK THOSE PSYCHO LEFT FAGGOT FUCKS! GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN!"

I feel so convinced by your argument Laviticas. You seem rational and sane.

[Wrathbringer]

It's not the difference between "broken" and "normal." It's about what constitutes an environment suitable for human habitation and how much of that would be acceptable to lose.

Besides, your whole concept is incorrect. There is nothing "broken" about how the environment is reacting to what we're doing to it- it's just a matter of chemistry and the laws of physics.

Without any proof that we can stop/slow whatever is happening (if something is indeed happening, and I think it is), dissenters are correct to balk at any proposed "solutions." Again, without knowing for certain the cause, we're just wasting money/time on trial and error green legislation that "might" help.

[Laviticas]

"Hey, did you hear that astronomers found a new planet orbiting that star over there?"
"Oh, really? That's neat."

"Hey, did you hear climatologists have noticed that human activity is affecting the environment?"
"FUCK THOSE PSYCHO LEFT FAGGOT FUCKS! GET OFF MY FUCKING LAWN!"

Hey SEE that new planet? Yup very cool.

Hey the climate is changing! From what? We don't know, just give us your money so we can tell you.

You first!

[Laviticas]

All that is being asked for is a model of the correct climate. That's it, that is all, no more, just the model of the correct climate.

[waywardgs]

Hey SEE that new planet? Yup very cool.

Hey the climate is changing! From what? We don't know, just give us your money so we can tell you.

You first!

You didn't personally look through the telescope did you? And yet you still believe the astronomer. But when a climatologist (or in this case, hundreds of them) tell you climate change is happening, you freak out. It's mystifying.

[Laviticas]

Lol, wayward thinks they are "looking" through a telescope at those distant planets that are light years away. It's no wonder folks like you fall for doom and gloom models of death.

Wayward there is a difference between discovering new planets and using computer models based on numbers that don't even calculate when your looking at billions of years of climate history. That shit isn't even science, it's guessing.

[Johnny Five]

Reading about someone finding new planets 60000 light years away is far more interesting than listening to your nerds whine about climate change when it's clearly been happening over and over for millions of years. It's old news. Dinosaurs had climate change too, all them giant T-rex farts and bubbling tar pits. I'm sure Little Foot wouldn't mind living in our current level of global warming.