Donald Sterling and Political Theory

[cwolff]

I'm not threatened by it, it's you folks that are trying to make us all the same.

Yea, I have had such the privileged life. Raising my four kids in a 2 bedroom apartment, it was awesome. Yet somehow we managed without government handouts and special laws. You know who I blame for my situation? Myself.

Or I can talk about my fathers privileged life growing up as a poor dirt farmer in southern Iowa with his three brothers, they lived in a 2 bedroom farmhouse that had no insulation and they would save their newspapers to stuff in the walls. They went to school in a 1 room schoolhouse that served as church as well, their Christmas gift was a pair of work boots and they darned their socks. It was not until the farm could no longer support the family that they moved to the city and my grandfather took on a job as a diesel mechanic, this was the first time my father had ever seen a TV, this was 1962.

Yet somehow all 3 boys managed to become successful without government help or special laws.

You sound threatened, that's for sure. Bitching about how the gold digger isn't getting attacked because she's a minority, complaining about the composition of sports teams, defending Sterling in the court of public opinion. Then you justify it all with that tired old saw about "I'm not privileged, I worked for everything I got!" We hear that here so often it's cliche. No one cares that you walked uphill both ways to school in the snow.

[Laviticas]

You sound threatened, that's for sure. Bitching about how the gold digger isn't getting attacked because she's a minority, complaining about the composition of sports teams, defending Sterling in the court of public opinion. Then you justify it all with that tired old saw about "I'm not privileged, I worked for everything I got!" We hear that here so often it's cliche. No one cares that you walked uphill both ways to school in the snow.

Cwolff, show me where I support this guy? How many times have I called him a racist, a pig, a dickbag?

I did work for everything I have, you fuck. I Work my fingers to the fucking bone, there's nights I can hardly walk at the end of my shift.

She's fucking gold digging whore, I don't give a fuck about her skin color, just like I don't give a fuck about anyone else's skin color.

GTFO you fucking cunt.

[Tgo01]

You have to forgive cwolff. The democrats openly admitted they wanted to play the race card this election cycle so he's just doing his part by calling everyone who doesn't agree with him a racist.

[Latrinsorm]

I think you could get a majority to agree on when a hole is filled, because there would be measurable physical evidence that the hole is indeed filled. Human nature isn't nearly that simple.

Again, terrible example. There are no bias police. (yet)

I didn't claim there were bias police. I merely pointed out a case where that majority you described have no problem with special treatment. Ask Terry, it's called a reductio ad absurdum.

Notice how much higher the median pay is for Asians than even whites? Now let's look a bit further up the chart at the overwhelming number of Asians in the job market with at least a bachelor's degree, compared to whites. You think those things might be related somehow? A difference in median pay isn't because there are raging racist employers holding the black man down. If you want to discuss why blacks are less educated, on average, that's fine...but don't try to act like it's racism in the workplace.

Anecdotal as it is, I recently promoted a black guy to management...and guess what? I pay him 10k less a year than I do my other two managers, both of whom are white. Because he's black, right? No...because he doesn't have a college degree and doesn't have as much experience. But he's reliable, responsible, and does a good job, so I promoted him to a few k over the company minimum. If he keeps doing a good job he can get raises annually until he's at the same level as the other two, or promoted further up the ladder...but I simply can't start him at the same salary as people who are entirely more qualified. I'm almost positive I'm not the only employer in this country in that situation.

Like Jarvan's observation about the professional environment, your observation can be correct without explaining the entire wage gap, and that happens to be the case. There aren't a lot of bachelor's degrees in the janitorial environment, but black janitors get paid less than white janitors.

If you have some data that I've apparently missed, I'd love to see it.

The data isn't the problem.

[Latrinsorm]

Actually latrine I do not support special programs for the military, unless they are injured on duty. Entering the military is voluntary.

Oh. I'd keep that to yourself if I was you.

How many of these slaves are still alive today, Latrine?

The victims of that past are all dead, and as I said that's irrelevant. All men might be created equal in the eyes of the Lord, but they sure as heck aren't born equal in America.

You're right it's not 1% to 1%, yet I don't think it's whites killing blacks in this instance, why do they need special laws because they are killing each other?

The disproportionate part being targeted is blacks being killed for being black, which happens more than 4 to 1 to the same for white people.

The wage gap also exists within the administration that you all so love. Like I said, if they can pull the same weight, they deserve the same pay, not an issue with me. Not sure why you brought this up, when I agree.

I brought it up because Jarvan said it didn't exist.

[Tgo01]

it's called a reductio ad absurdum.

So is your penis.

[cwolff]

You have to forgive cwolff. The democrats openly admitted they wanted to play the race card this election cycle so he's just doing his part by calling everyone who doesn't agree with him a racist.

nice trolling. Keep it up. If this doesn't work you could always google for another minority to criticize.

Cwolff, show me where I support this guy? How many times have I called him a racist, a pig, a dickbag?

I did work for everything I have, you fuck. I Work my fingers to the fucking bone, there's nights I can hardly walk at the end of my shift.

She's fucking gold digging whore, I don't give a fuck about her skin color, just like I don't give a fuck about anyone else's skin color.

GTFO you fucking cunt.

It's true, you've not worked as hard to support him as Tg and some of the others have. You are indirectly though. When told of his losses in court you bring up some sort of double jeopardy and you're saying, "he's a sleazebag but so is she!" Why she even factors into this is beyond me. What need is there for this 2 wrongs argument at all? V Stiviano has no power. She's not a billionaire. For some reason you feel the need to counter the Sterling criticisms by diverting attention to other perceived wrong doers. That's why I say you are defending him.

[Latrinsorm]

So is your penis.

In bed!

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[Tgo01]

nice trolling. Keep it up. If this doesn't work you could always google for another minority to criticize.

See? Proof!

It's true, you've not worked as hard to support him as Tg and some of the others have.

I supported Sterling?

LAWL!

I'd ask you for some examples but we all know you won't bother, am I right?

Or if you do it will just be more "See? He disagreed with me therefore Tgo01 = racist!"

[cwolff]

See? Proof!



I supported Sterling?

LAWL!

I'd ask you for some examples but we all know you won't bother, am I right?

Or if you do it will just be more "See? He disagreed with me therefore Tgo01 = racist!"

I already listed your comments. Remember? Disparage the players, Disparage the woman, Defend Sterling, Realize he's indefensible and disparage the woman again. Short memory or what?