Donald Sterling and Political Theory

[Ker_Thwap]

This guy is a billionaire and a member of a private club. So he can't go see basketball games now. So what. I'm failing to see the connection between how this will affect one's view on foreign policy, domestic policy or national finances.

That confusion could be because you are working with your own personal pre-conceived notion of what it means to be a liberal.

Let me draw out the connections for you then.
- Miranda rights. Liberal or conservative?
- Opposition to three strikes. Liberal or conservative.
- Prison reform, rehabilitation. Liberal or conservative.
- Giving bad people second chances. Liberal or conservative.
- Inflexible sentencing. Liberal or conservative.
- Blaming society for the poor behavior. Liberal or conservative?
- Vigilante justice. Liberal or conservative?

OBVIOUSLY, I'm talking social liberalism, not economic, nor foreign policy concerns.

[Tgo01]

You think he's a witch? Did he float?

He never denied being a witch. Good enough for me.

[cwolff]

Let me draw out the connections for you then.
- Miranda rights. Liberal or conservative?
- Opposition to three strikes. Liberal or conservative.
- Prison reform, rehabilitation. Liberal or conservative.
- Giving bad people second chances. Liberal or conservative.
- Inflexible sentencing. Liberal or conservative.
- Blaming society for the poor behavior. Liberal or conservative?
- Vigilante justice. Liberal or conservative?

OBVIOUSLY, I'm talking social liberalism, not economic, nor foreign policy concerns.

I see what you are trying to say but I can't see the connection. All the things you talked about are either criminal or human rights issues. Sterling's just an asshole that no one in his NBA peer group wants to be associated with. Not even the conservatives. He'll sell the team for a billion dollars and go lick his wounds somewhere opulent.

[Tgo01]

I see what you are trying to say but I can't see the connection.

It's different this time!

[cwolff]

It's different this time!

Different this time implies that we're dealing with two equal scenarios and we're not. You'll never understand that until you learn to deal with the shades of gray.

[Ker_Thwap]

I see what you are trying to say but I can't see the connection. All the things you talked about are either criminal or human rights issues. Sterling's just an asshole that no one in his NBA peer group wants to be associated with. Not even the conservatives. He'll sell the team for a billion dollars and go lick his wounds somewhere opulent.

Ask yourself if you think the prosecution and punishment of Sterling was done in generally liberal manner, or a generally conservative manner. I think he was "prosecuted" in a generally conservative manner.

They didn't care that he might have had his privacy violated. (not legally)
Didn't suggest he go to a Jason Kidd 6 month re-education clinic.
Didn't care that this man was brainwashed by the 1950s society
Didn't care that he's part of a protected class, age (fading mental faculties?)
Didn't care about a unilateral decision without hearing his side of the story, suggestions for improvement.
Exulted in the rage demonstrated by the NBA and NAACP spokespeople.

These seem to me hallmarks of the conservative way of thinking.

Being more conservative than some, I think they did a fine job. I'm just surprised no liberal is concerned about the methods used to slam him. Are you suggesting that Sterling's human rights aren't important, regardless of whether it's a criminal or civil issue?

[waywardgs]

Owning a billion dollar nba franchise isn't a "right." I wish it were.

[Ker_Thwap]

Owning a billion dollar nba franchise isn't a "right." I wish it were.

Yeah, it's why I didn't mention it in my list.

[cwolff]

Ask yourself if you think the prosecution and punishment of Sterling was done in generally liberal manner, or a generally conservative manner. I think he was "prosecuted" in a generally conservative manner.

They didn't care that he might have had his privacy violated. (not legally)
Didn't suggest he go to a Jason Kidd 6 month re-education clinic.
Didn't care that this man was brainwashed by the 1950s society
Didn't care that he's part of a protected class, age (fading mental faculties?)
Didn't care about a unilateral decision without hearing his side of the story, suggestions for improvement.
Exulted in the rage demonstrated by the NBA and NAACP spokespeople.

These seem to me hallmarks of the conservative way of thinking.

Being more conservative than some, I think they did a fine job. I'm just surprised no liberal is concerned about the methods used to slam him. Are you suggesting that Sterling's human rights aren't important, regardless of whether it's a criminal or civil issue?

People get fired all the time. It's not a human rights issue and it's neither civil or criminal. He fucked up and got kicked out of his club. That's all. Hopefully it's a great learning experience for him.

[Ker_Thwap]

People get fired all the time. It's not a human rights issue and it's neither civil or criminal. He fucked up and got kicked out of his club. That's all. Hopefully it's a great learning experience for him.

Alright then, I have your answer. The ends do justify the means. Thanks for playing.