Obama's Manhood Problem

[Wrathbringer]

Some people never get past the "oh yeah? Well you're a fag!!" school of debate they learned in second grade.

lol'd again. You guys are awesome.

[Methais]

Don't believe me. That's fine. Would you believe Republican US House Rep Dennis Ross?



You guys can whine all you want about "We have ideas, it's just that no one will listen to us" but that doesn't make it true.

Why do you always act like just because people oppose the shit democrats come up with, that that automatically means they think that republicans are the pinnacle of brainstorming good ideas?

Pretty sure if you asked just about any republican or non-democrat on here, they'd tell you that they're just as fed up with republicans as they are with democrats.

Democrats are full of ideas that suck hairy asshole and make the problems worse.

Republicans are spineless and have pretty much no ideas.

What do you think is better? A bunch of bad ideas, or no ideas at all? Just answer that as a general question, instead of or at least before going on another Obama cheerleading spree and failing to answer anything.

They're all playing for the same team behind closed doors anyway.

[cwolff]

Why do you always act like just because people oppose the shit democrats come up with, that that automatically means they think that republicans are the pinnacle of brainstorming good ideas?

Pretty sure if you asked just about any republican or non-democrat on here, they'd tell you that they're just as fed up with republicans as they are with democrats.

Democrats are full of ideas that suck hairy asshole and make the problems worse.

Republicans are spineless and have pretty much no ideas.

What do you think is better? A bunch of bad ideas, or no ideas at all?

They're all playing for the same team behind closed doors anyway.

As much as you may be angry over the state of affairs in U.S. politics today the fact still remains that there are only two parties who can produce legislation.

If you want to talk about creating a third party that actually has a hope in hell of getting enough representation to do something then that's a different thread.

Beyond that you're still operating the "You're a fag" method of debate that WW mentioned earlier.

[kutter]

Don't believe me. That's fine. Would you believe Republican US House Rep Dennis Ross?



You guys can whine all you want about "We have ideas, it's just that no one will listen to us" but that doesn't make it true.

So one person encompasses the entire Republican party, of which I am not a member, just to clarify. So by your train of thought then I can paint all the Dems with that same brush with comments from Max Baucus. "I just tell you, I just see a huge train wreck coming down. You and I have discussed this many times and I don't see any results yet.

"What can you do to help all these people around the country going, ‘What in the world do I do and what -- how do I know what to do?’"

How is that any different, it is one persons opinion on either side, get real.

[Methais]

As much as you may be angry over the state of affairs in U.S. politics today the fact still remains that there are only two parties who can produce legislation.

If you want to talk about creating a third party that actually has a hope in hell of getting enough representation to do something then that's a different thread.

Beyond that you're still operating the "You're a fag" method of debate that WW mentioned earlier.

I see. The "You're a fag" argument is the temporary race card replacement, at least for this thread.

If I wasn't so lazy, or at least thought enough people would be unlazy enough to participate in it, I'd make a thread for people to record themselves throwing a baseball. Just because I'm curious now.

Nothing you said changes the fact that both parties suck more right now than they've ever sucked before either.

I figured you'd dodge my question though, so I'll ask again and see how you tapdance around it this time:

What do you think is better? A bunch of bad ideas, or no ideas at all?

[cwolff]

So one person encompasses the entire Republican party, of which I am not a member, just to clarify. So by your train of thought then I can paint all the Dems with that same brush with comments from Max Baucus. "I just tell you, I just see a huge train wreck coming down. You and I have discussed this many times and I don't see any results yet.

"What can you do to help all these people around the country going, ‘What in the world do I do and what -- how do I know what to do?’"

How is that any different, it is one persons opinion on either side, get real.

You didn't believe me. You don't believe Ross. Why don't we do this. Put up your proof of the ACA alternatives and we can discuss them one by one. We've done it another thread, guess we have to do it here too. Even then, I seriously doubt that you will listen. Let's just start with alternatives that actually were proposed as a law. We can get to the other ideas later.

[cwolff]

I see. The "You're a fag" argument is the temporary race card replacement, at least for this thread.

If I wasn't so lazy, or at least thought enough people would be unlazy enough to participate in it, I'd make a thread for people to record themselves throwing a baseball. Just because I'm curious now.

Nothing you said changes the fact that both parties suck more right now than they've ever sucked before either.

I figured you'd dodge my question though, so I'll ask again and see how you tapdance around it this time:

What do you think is better? A bunch of bad ideas, or no ideas at all?

I think your question is a bad idea. It shows lazy thought processes and requires the one being questioned to hold the same prejudices as the one asking. Try it in a non-douche bag format.

[waywardgs]

"He's a fag."
"Calling people fags is a dumb argument."
"Stop playing the fag card!!!11"

Stupid.

[Methais]

I think your question is a bad idea. It shows lazy thought processes and requires the one being questioned to hold the same prejudices as the one asking. Try it in a non-douche bag format.

It's a pretty simple question actually.

You just don't want to answer it because you'll end up making yourself look dumber than you already do.

[Methais]

Thread: Obama's Manhood Problem

(red)wouldn't it be hilarious if obamacare succeeded? why don't conservatives want the president, and thus the country, to succeed at anything?

If Obamacare magically became this great thing that fixed the whole system like the way they try to sell it to people, I'd see that as a good thing.

But anyone with a pulse should know that that's not going to be the case. It would still suck if it were implemented by Reagan, Bush, or whoever on the right that you hate. So trying to play it off as "You just want it to fail because Obama!" is a bullshit straw man argument.