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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    So why did she cash those SS checks?
    She didn't. A lady named Mrs. Pryor, who had power of attorney for her estate, did. A quote from an interview with Mrs. Pryor....

    "Winding down the interview, McConnell asked: “Would you say that Ayn Rand practiced what she preached?”

    Pryor replied, laughing: “Yes, that’s why I had so much trouble with her.”

    “You mean the Social Security issue and all that?” McConnell said.

    “Yes,” Pryor said."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorbird View Post
    Her estate was worth about 1.2 million. In modern money, that 13 grand is about 30,000. In short? A benefit.
    Now work out the amount she paid in before receiving that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    Now work out the amount she paid in before receiving that money.
    I pay in quite a lot of taxes compared to some folks. It doesn't mean that if I suddenly get a refund it isn't a benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorbird View Post
    I pay in quite a lot of taxes compared to some folks. It doesn't mean that if I suddenly get a refund it isn't a benefit.
    Wow. You really believe that if I take a lot of your money and give you back a little bit of it....you've benefited?

    You must be a hit in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    So why did she cash those SS checks?
    Isabel Paterson and Rose Wilder Lane didn't. They stuck to their guns. Ayn...well she folded like a cheap suit.

    Evva Joan Pryor, who had been a social worker in New York in the 1970s, was interviewed in 1998 by Scott McConnell, who was then the director of communications for the Ayn Rand Institute. In his book, 100 Voices: An Oral History of Ayn Rand , McConnell basically portrays Rand as first standing on principle, but then being mugged by reality. Stephens points to this exchange between McConnell and Pryor.

    “She was coming to a point in her life where she was going to receive the very thing she didn’t like, which was Medicare and Social Security,” Pryor told McConnell. “I remember telling her that this was going to be difficult. For me to do my job she had to recognize that there were exceptions to her theory. So that started our political discussions. From there on – with gusto – we argued all the time.

    The initial argument was on greed,” Pryor continued. “She had to see that there was such a thing as greed in this world. Doctors could cost an awful lot more money than books earn, and she could be totally wiped out by medical bills if she didn’t watch it. Since she had worked her entire life, and had paid into Social Security, she had a right to it. She didn’t feel that an individual should take help.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwolff View Post
    Isabel Paterson and Rose Wilder Lane didn't. They stuck to their guns. Ayn...well she folded like a cheap suit.
    A little knowledge really is worse than none at all.

    Don't worry, I went ahead and posted some of the facts you left out, for obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    A little knowledge really is worse than none at all.

    Don't worry, I went ahead and posted some of the facts you left out, for obvious reasons.
    So when you fall into bad ends beyond your control you expect people to just walk past not giving a fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    Wow. You really believe that if I take a lot of your money and give you back a little bit of it....you've benefited?

    You must be a hit in Vegas.
    You really think your tax refunds aren't a benefit to you? I have a microbrew habit you could finance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back View Post
    So when you fall into bad ends beyond your control you expect people to just walk past not giving a fuck?
    "Some people can’t afford medical care in the U.S. But they are necessarily a small minority in a free or even semi-free country. If they were the majority, the country would be an utter bankrupt and could not even think of a national medical program. As to this small minority, in a free country they have to rely solely on private, voluntary charity. Yes, charity, the kindness of the doctors or of the better off—charity, not right, i.e. not their right to the lives or work of others. And such charity, I may say, was always forthcoming in the past in America. The advocates of Medicaid and Medicare under LBJ did not claim that the poor or old in the ’60′s got bad care; they claimed that it was an affront for anyone to have to depend on charity.

    But the fact is: You don’t abolish charity by calling it something else. If a person is getting health care for nothing, simply because he is breathing, he is still getting charity, whether or not any politician, lobbyist or activist calls it a “right.” To call it a right when the recipient did not earn it is merely to compound the evil. It is charity still—though now extorted by criminal tactics of force, while hiding under a dishonest name."

    -Leonard Peikoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thondalar View Post
    And such charity, I may say, was always forthcoming in the past in America.
    ...sigh.
    Hasta pronto, porque la vida no termina aqui...
    America, stop pushing. I know what I'm doing.

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