Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

[Jarvan]

On a side note.. does anyone else think the UN is starting to get a bit ... well stupidly useless.

Russia invades Ukraine.

UN votes to denounce Russia.

Russia Vetoes the vote.

All is well.


Kinda would be like if someone gets arrested for murder in the US, and put on trial, and the Murderer goes, I veto this trial.

Then they let him go.

Maybe the country in question shouldn't be allowed to vote?

[Warriorbird]

On a side note.. does anyone else think the UN is starting to get a bit ... well stupidly useless.

Russia invades Ukraine.

UN votes to denounce Russia.

Russia Vetoes the vote.

All is well.


Kinda would be like if someone gets arrested for murder in the US, and put on trial, and the Murderer goes, I veto this trial.

Then they let him go.

Maybe the country in question shouldn't be allowed to vote?

I think the shark was jumped when they put this fellow on the Security Council.

[Wrathbringer]

Erdogan (Turkey PM) has now implied he would blockade Sea of Marmara to prevent war. This effectively counters any upper hand Russia may have gained asserting dominance over their warm water ports. Ah weishenme ta zuo le.

I like turtles

[Atlanteax]

Erdogan (Turkey PM) has now implied he would blockade Sea of Marmara to prevent war. This effectively counters any upper hand Russia may have gained asserting dominance over their warm water ports. Ah weishenme ta zuo le.

Turkey has historical tensions with Russia, nevermind the onus to put on a strong domestic/regional appearance on behalf of the Crimea Tatars as Turkey is striving to be 'the leader' of the Islamic / MiddleEastern region (as it was during the Ottoman Empire).

[NinjasLeadTheWay]

[Parkbandit]

I can't get past that guy looking like one of the people from Whoville.

[Johnny Five]

[Keller]

Why is it better to sanction powerless people than to target sanctions on the powerful? Sanctioning the general population of Russia just reinforces Putin's anti-American narrative.

[Atlanteax]

Agreed. Moreover, Erdogan has his own occasional protests to deal with, very important high level negotiations underway with Kurdish separatists and an ever increasing transient wartime population. Unfortunately, he has recently stripped the military of its authoritarian powers. This is only bad because it gives him total autonomy, where in the past Turkish military reigned in would be dictators. He's unstable and he will lean in the direction of whoever recognizes his (assumed) total authority. I think Putin knows this, or we would have seen an unscrupulous slaughter of the Tatars already. Putin always acts preemptively in matters that concern religious minorities.

Yep, Turkey is pretty much impotent as for being able to mount any resistance to the Russians for the near future. It is a situation of 'bad timing' as pre-Erdogan, Turkey would had been able to be more assertive. However, it is fortunate that the secular forces in Turkey are containing and even rolling back Erdogan's agenda.

[Keller]

So I guess there are fire fights between people in Russian uniforms and the Ukrainian troops in Simferopol now.