Russia Just Invaded Ukraine

[Tgo01]

I was in Crimea(pronounced Kreme) about two weeks ago, visiting my wife's family and I recently in Kharkov, Kiev and Odessa. Everyone in Ukraine speaks Russian, except when with just family.
No one is being persecuted for language or anything else. Russians consider Ukrainians like brothers, and vice versa
About this so called pro Russian Crimea, which is also false. They have held past referendums to leave Ukraine that failed, and failed big 60-40 or some shit. 20% are Tatars that hate Russia and about 40% are Ukrainians, the rest are pro Russians. Most Ukraine's want nothing to do with Russia. Everything outside of Moscow/St Petersburg, is like third world trash in Russia, and all Russians and Ukrainians know this. The majority of Ukrainians feel like they have a better future with more EU integration.

But Back read a book and assured us that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia.

[Solkern]

But Back read a book and assured us that Crimea wants to be a part of Russia.

I read a book that Pokemon are real too!

[Solkern]

On top of that it's the base point of the Black Sea fleet and from this point Russia has a key access point to the Mediterranean. Read that again! This is Russian access to the Mediterranean. So yes, they will go to war to defend this tiny little piece of Russian oligarchy. I really hope the United States does not interfere.

Russia has Novorossiysk which they have been spending boat loads of money to upgrade their naval base, so they don't have to rely on Crimea so much. So this isn't Russia's "access" to the mediterranean. They have others.

[subzero]

Why? He was elected by a majority.

Ahahahaha! Always trust in the herd!

[Gelston]

Okay, not really.

Pro-Russian troops fired warning shots at around 300 Ukrainian soldiers protesting at a military airfield in the Crimea, as Secretary of State John Kerry was on his way to Kiev in an expression of support for Ukraine's sovereignty.

About a dozen Russian soldiers at the Belbek air base stood guarding the airfield and warned the Ukrainians on Tuesday, who were marching unarmed, not to approach. They fired several warning shots into the air and said they would shoot the Ukrainians if they continued to march toward them.

The shots were apparently the first fired since pro-Russian troops -- estimated by Ukrainian authorities to be 16,000 strong --tightened their grip on the Crimea Peninsula over the weekend.

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Early on Tuesday, Vladimir Putin's spokesman told Russian news agencies that the Russian president ordered troops participating in military exercises in western Russia near the Ukraine border to return to their permanent bases. The order was issued almost a week after Russia began massive exercises involving most military units in western Russia, stoking fears that the Kremlin might use the troops to seize territory in pro-Russian areas of eastern Ukraine.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/03...heads-to-kiev/

Looks like Putin may be softening his stance a little though.

[Parkbandit]

So was Bush, twice!

My point is we actually have a choice.

I hate to pile on someone when they've been so wrong so often in a thread but...

You're wrong again.

[Parkbandit]

The American right loves Putin. It's been odd really. They're calling him a visionary, master strategist and shit like that on Fox.

So, if you call someone a visionary and a master strategist in describing what he's done, you love him?

Sounds like they are just describing the type of person he is. I don't watch it, so if you have some source material, I'd be interested in seeing/reading it.

It sounds like English is like your 2nd language and you simply don't understand the nuances of it very well.

[Gelston]

And just now the White House has announced a $1 billion aid package for the Ukraine.

[Wrathbringer]

And just now the White House has announced a $1 billion aid package for the Ukraine.

Think Detroit needs one too. And Gary, IN. Oh right, we only help foreigners. Forgot.

[Warriorbird]

Think Detroit needs one too. And Gary, IN. Oh right, we only help foreigners. Forgot.

Last time we helped Detroit some people sure bitched about it.