And you're doing your "Thond says the Founding Fathers didn't disagree" thing again. I've never once stated that, ever...quite the contrary. I would hope that my ability to carry an intelligent conversation about these topics would tip you off to some amount of personal knowledge on my part, at least enough for you to know that I would never make such an outlandish statement. They disagreed quite a bit, and if not for a certain eloquent few (Jefferson and Madison come to mind), this whole thing probably never would have made it past it's infancy.
So it's in no unclear terms, I will state again what I have stated before: There has never been a time, in this country nor any other, where the members of government have fully agreed on the course of any action.