More Obamacare fuckups

[Latrinsorm]

Do it at the boulder!

Stay out of this, Anticor!!!

You and me are going to be resorting to fisticuffs pretty soon, Tgo.

You would need lightning reflexes to fit a hook in past my hands-moving-around-in-a-slapping-motion-jitsu, lol, or what? lol

lol

[Warriorbird]

I bet if that vote was held now, we would have a different president

This is true of pretty much every second term President.

[crb]

I bet if that vote was held now, we would have a different president

I bet you if the exact same law was passed in late 2008, and named Bushcare, Democrats would be crying for repeal. More and more they seem to cling to it more out of pride or some irrational fear of admitting failure than any logical positive reason.

There is nothing wrong with the idea of providing subsidized healthcare to the poor, this is absolutely the worst possible system anyone could have designed to accomplish that.

I think Washington needs to operate on a "He cuts, you choose" mentality. One party defines the goal, the other party needs to decide how to get there. Democrats can say "Universal healthcare" republicans then get to pick how to get there. Republicans can say "Return to 2006 spending levels" democrats can decide how we get there. Everyone who has ever shared a brownie knows how this rule works.

I'm just glad we spent all this money so that on day 1 6 uninsured people could get health insurance. RTCF sold more tickets on day 1 than Obamacare did.

[Latrinsorm]

...this is absolutely the worst possible system anyone could have designed to accomplish that.

Oh, crb.

I think Washington needs to operate on a "He cuts, you choose" mentality. One party defines the goal, the other party needs to decide how to get there. Democrats can say "Universal healthcare" republicans then get to pick how to get there. Republicans can say "Return to 2006 spending levels" democrats can decide how we get there. Everyone who has ever shared a brownie knows how this rule works.

Democrats say "go to war with Germany", Republicans say "ok you can draft 1000 soldiers, because George Washington".
Republicans say "civil rights act", Democrats say "ok but it has to be enforced by state LEOs with no federal interference, because Constitution."

[Methais]

I bet you if the exact same law was passed in late 2008, and named Bushcare...

RTCF sold more tickets on day 1 than Obamacare did.

33x more at that.

[Thondalar]

There is nothing wrong with the idea of providing subsidized healthcare to the poor, this is absolutely the worst possible system anyone could have designed to accomplish that.

We already have Government healthcare for the poor and elderly, it's called Medicaid and Medicare. What does the ACA do, exactly?

[Wrathbringer]

We already have Government healthcare for the poor and elderly, it's called Medicaid and Medicare. What does the ACA do, exactly?

Why do you hate poor people?

Edit: More seriously, as a direct result of the ACA, our pediatrician no longer accepts our insurance and we'll have to change plans/providers if we wish to continue to have them care for our children. Thanks, Obama. Good to know if we liked our doctors/insurance, no one would take them from us. What a cluster. "We, government, are going to get all up in your behind involved in this, but don't worry, nothing will change if you don't want it to..." Riiight. never does, right?

[cwolff]

We already have Government healthcare for the poor and elderly, it's called Medicaid and Medicare. What does the ACA do, exactly?

Glad you asked! And the answer is that it does a lot!
1) Creates health insurance exchanges
2) Subsidizes insurance for the poor who make too much to be on medicaid/medicare
3) Makes it possible to get coverage with a pre-existing condition

I'm sure it does more, those are just three things it does that a majority of republicans like.

Oh, they also like the employer mandate. The used to like the individual mandate too, but now they don't.

I bet you if the exact same law was passed in late 2008, and named Bushcare, Democrats would be crying for repeal. More and more they seem to cling to it more out of pride or some irrational fear of admitting failure than any logical positive reason.

Could be that people like it

I'm just glad we spent all this money so that on day 1 6 uninsured people could get health insurance. RTCF sold more tickets on day 1 than Obamacare did.

Did you read the article about Kentucky? They had something like 35,000 people sign up in it's first month. IN KENTUCKY!

[Candor]

Why do you hate poor people?

Personally I don't dislike someone because they are poor. But if you are poor and lazy, now I have a problem with you.

I dont like rich and lazy all that much either, but rich people don't tend to need welfare, free healthcare, and so forth.

[Tgo01]

Personally I don't dislike someone because they are poor. But if you are poor and lazy, now I have a problem with you.

What about poor and an asshole?