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    Another Obamacare Deadline Blunder Is Worrying Democrats

    WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats facing reelection next year aren't just fretting about a balky website and President Barack Obama's misleading campaign statements on health care. Now they've begun worrying about another deadline a year away.

    According to an Affordable Care Act timetable established by administration officials, early next October insurance companies will announce their new menu of health care plans for the ACA marketplaces -- plans that may be more varied and numerous than those offered this year, but that almost certainly will come with higher prices.

    The likely price hikes will hit the individual and small-business insurance markets only weeks before Election Day on Nov. 4, 2014.

    "What genius came up with that timetable?" asked one key Democrat, who declined to be quoted by name because he is involved in private White House talks.

    Democratic senators and their political advisers have been lobbying the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services to push back the next "open season" date until after the election, to no avail.

    The concern about the 2014 timetable highlights a fundamental political reality of Obamacare: The success or failure of the program depends largely on the kindness of strangers -- the insurance companies -- and whatever happens in the marketplace, for good or ill, will be ascribed to President Obama and the Democrats, since Republicans refused to vote for the law or cooperate in efforts to make it work.

    The president's job approval rating is already down to 42 percent in the new NBC poll, the lowest of his presidency in that survey.
    That's the kind of convictions I like to see from my elected officials. It's sad that politicians know their voters so well that they know if they fuck up after they are reelected but keep their noses clean a month before the next election that they will get elected again.

    What other job does one only have to worry about what their boss thinks one month out of six years.
    Last edited by Tgo01; 10-30-2013 at 09:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    Another Obamacare Deadline Blunder Is Worrying Democrats

    That's the kind of convictions I like to see from my elected officials. It's sad that politicians know their voters so well that they know if they fuck up after they are reelected but keep their noses clean a month before the next election that they will get elected again.

    What other job does one only have to worry about what their boss thinks one month out of six years.
    It will get changed because the Democrats will call the Republicans a name and they will cave as normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    Kembal: Good morning sir.. I have a suspected tax evader I would like to investigate.

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    B: Wut?

    K: He's already admitted to evading taxes in the past and I believe he is still prone to doing so.

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    Doesn't make him any better than any of the moochers he speaks against all the time. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    He may as well be an illegal alien.
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    (CNN) -- White House officials have pressured insurance industry executives to keep quiet amid mounting criticism over Obamacare's rollout, insurance industry sources told CNN.

    After insurance officials publicly criticized the implementation, White House staffers contacted insurers to express their displeasure, industry insiders said. Multiple sources declined to speak publicly about the push back because they fear retribution.

    But Bob Laszewski, who heads a consulting firm for big insurance companies, did talk on the record.

    "The White House is exerting massive pressure on the industry, including the trade associations, to keep quiet," he said.

    Laszewski, who's been a vocal critic of Obamacare, said he's been asked by insurance executives to speak out because they feel defenseless against an administration that is regulating their business -- and a big customer.

    Government-backed plans accounted for about half of health care policies last year, a number that is expected to grow over the years.

    White House spokesman Jay Carney said the idea that administration officials are trying to silence insurance industry insiders is "preposterous and inaccurate." He added that Laszewski has been a vocal critic of health care reform for two decades.

    "Plus, it ignores the fact that every day insurance companies are out talking about the law -- in large part because they are trying to reach millions of new customers who will now have new affordable insurance options available from providers through the new Market Places," Carney said.

    Obama and his top advisers have acknowledged problems with the health care website.
    On Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was the latest administration official to apologize for the bungled rollout.

    Yet she and other officials continue to argue that once they are fully up and running, the insurance exchanges will benefit Americans.

    But Obama also has been accused of breaking his promise that people who like their current plans can keep them. Insurers have begun discontinuing policies that don't meet Obamacare's beefed up coverage requirements.
    Laszewski said insurance company officials are embarrassed that they have to cancel plans and force people into more robust, and possibly more expensive, coverage.

    Insurers, he said, warned the White House that the regulations would lead to discontinued policies.

    "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan," Laszewski said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/politi...ouse-pressure/

    Chicago style politics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parkbandit View Post
    (CNN) -- White House officials have pressured insurance industry executives to keep quiet amid mounting criticism over Obamacare's rollout, insurance industry sources told CNN.

    After insurance officials publicly criticized the implementation, White House staffers contacted insurers to express their displeasure, industry insiders said. Multiple sources declined to speak publicly about the push back because they fear retribution.

    But Bob Laszewski, who heads a consulting firm for big insurance companies, did talk on the record.

    "The White House is exerting massive pressure on the industry, including the trade associations, to keep quiet," he said.

    Laszewski, who's been a vocal critic of Obamacare, said he's been asked by insurance executives to speak out because they feel defenseless against an administration that is regulating their business -- and a big customer.

    Government-backed plans accounted for about half of health care policies last year, a number that is expected to grow over the years.

    White House spokesman Jay Carney said the idea that administration officials are trying to silence insurance industry insiders is "preposterous and inaccurate." He added that Laszewski has been a vocal critic of health care reform for two decades.

    "Plus, it ignores the fact that every day insurance companies are out talking about the law -- in large part because they are trying to reach millions of new customers who will now have new affordable insurance options available from providers through the new Market Places," Carney said.

    Obama and his top advisers have acknowledged problems with the health care website.
    On Wednesday, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was the latest administration official to apologize for the bungled rollout.

    Yet she and other officials continue to argue that once they are fully up and running, the insurance exchanges will benefit Americans.

    But Obama also has been accused of breaking his promise that people who like their current plans can keep them. Insurers have begun discontinuing policies that don't meet Obamacare's beefed up coverage requirements.
    Laszewski said insurance company officials are embarrassed that they have to cancel plans and force people into more robust, and possibly more expensive, coverage.

    Insurers, he said, warned the White House that the regulations would lead to discontinued policies.

    "One of the things I think is clear here is the Obama administration has no trust in anything the health insurance industry is telling them about how to run a health plan," Laszewski said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/politi...ouse-pressure/

    Chicago style politics...
    I'm sure the first Obama has heard about this was reading it in the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    I'm sure the first Obama has heard about this was reading it in the news.
    And I bet no one is more outraged than he is.
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    It's quite telling that you honestly believe that piece was just facts and didn't want to mold public opinion either way. If the propaganda was that blatant and you still don't get that you are being directed down the cattle shoot [sic], I'm not sure what you want to discuss.

    I'm sure they are straight shooting, unbiased people who have no axes to grind....

    Well, there you go. Since it's in the Internet from a very unbiased source, it must be true!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latrinsorm View Post
    Well, there you go. Since it's in the Internet from a very unbiased source, it must be true!!
    This is what Back and WB has taught us tho. Oh, and ClydeR too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlanteax View Post
    This is what Back and WB has taught us tho. Oh, and ClydeR too.
    You'd have made a very incisive and important point if only it were true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warriorbird View Post
    You'd have made a very incisive and important point if only it were true.
    Give Atlanteax a break, all he did was forget to say "Except for OMG FAUX NEWS!!!"
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