More Obamacare fuckups

[Parkbandit]

This question has been asked already but it should be asked again. If you can't trust the CBO and you can't trust the lamestream media, or those liberal newspapers. Then where should we get our information? bloggers? FOX? Where? What's the answer? What makes you smarter than CNN or more educated on the minutae of the ACA than the CBO?

History.

Please name a large scale government program that was under budget from what the CBO originally came out with.

The legislation is crafted and they want to get the public opinion on their side.. so they give the CBO the information they know will give them the most positive spin on the legislative outcome.

There is no way our government can take over healthcare in this country and for it to actually save money in the long run.

[Thondalar]

History.

Please name a large scale government program that was under budget from what the CBO originally came out with.

The legislation is crafted and they want to get the public opinion on their side.. so they give the CBO the information they know will give them the most positive spin on the legislative outcome.

There is no way our government can take over healthcare in this country and for it to actually save money in the long run.

What I didn't really realize until a few days ago, which is totally my bad, I should have looked in to it a bit further at the beginning...The Affordable Care Act is basically using the same ponzi scheme structure as Social Security....young, healthy people are going to pay a fuckton more than older, sick people...I can't wait for the working youth of America to realize they got fucked once again.

[Warriorbird]

History.

Please name a large scale government program that was under budget from what the CBO originally came out with.

The legislation is crafted and they want to get the public opinion on their side.. so they give the CBO the information they know will give them the most positive spin on the legislative outcome.

There is no way our government can take over healthcare in this country and for it to actually save money in the long run.

Except for the fact that the government has run a healthcare system for many years that has. Many amongst us might hate it, but it has. Let's see if you can think what it is.

In addition, private industry has done absolutely fuck all for reducing costs. It's just not going to magically happen no matter how much you wish for it. It's more inefficient than any of your Ayn Randian nonsense. And Ayn Rand sure as heck used Social Security to survive.

What I didn't really realize until a few days ago, which is totally my bad, I should have looked in to it a bit further at the beginning...The Affordable Care Act is basically using the same ponzi scheme structure as Social Security....young, healthy people are going to pay a fuckton more than older, sick people...I can't wait for the working youth of America to realize they got fucked once again.

I love it when you guys campaign for Herbert Hoover.

[Thondalar]

All I have to say is "you motherfucking stubborn ass whiney childish cunts" to both parties and our government as a whole. They did it. The deadline has passed. I understand that the damage is somewhat revokable, but really? Is this what our nation has come to today? A bunch of corrupt self-interest only career politicians that have no real interest in actually serving the people who elected them? Is letting go of the government budget and planned office shut downs really an option? I feel bad for my children and I am ashamed.

(and this is why I try not to think about too much let alone state an opinion/feeling on politics.

Neg. Get mad, bro. Hulk out on this shit. Republicans and Democrats have taken turns running this shit down to where it is now since 1913. Coolidge tried his best to stem it but it was too late. (Tinfoil hat time!) Progressives knew it wouldn't be overnight, it's been a long time coming...why anyone is surprised the Depression started 13 years after the Fed took over is beyond me. I'm a bit drunk right now so probably a little scattered, but...it's all right there. Quite easy to look up, fuck CNN or FOX or CBO or CIA or any other nifty acronym that really means "you're getting fucked." YGF. That's all it is, YGF.

Goddamnit let's go Galt on this bitch. (zomg he's referencing Ayn Rand!!!) Fuck right I am. This is bullshit. All of it. Every single one of you on this forum or any other that's ok with the way things are right now are either ignorant or you actually enjoy playing the fiddle while our Rome burns. I don't get it. Wake the fuck up.

[Thondalar]

Ayn Rand would've died without Social Security. America too.

You're an idiot.


edit: They both died anyway.

[Warriorbird]

You're an idiot.


edit: They both died anyway.

Maybe you did in a Hooverville. Count how many serious financial downturns we've had after the Fed. Count how many before.

[Thondalar]

Ayn Rand would've died without Social Security. America too. The deregulation bubble 1920s nearly smashed our economy completely. Too much credit kills it.

I'm nominating you for lead fiddle. At least Latrin comes up with an educated counter-opinion 2 out of 5 times. You're just fucking worthless.

[Warriorbird]

I'm nominating you for lead fiddle. At least Latrin comes up with an educated counter-opinion 2 out of 5 times. You're just fucking worthless.

Good insult to try to cover for me just killing your entire argument in a sentence. The 1920s follows the Gilded Age and the Articles period in the "bad things brought to us by Libertarianism" category.

[Thondalar]

Good insult to try to cover for me just killing your entire argument in a sentence.

Keep playing that fiddle.

/drops mic

[Back]

Keep playing that fiddle.

/drops mic

Ayn Rand, a novellist, playwright, and philosopher, otherwise known as an "artist", collected Social Security.

Is the heroine of the Tea Party not exactly what the Tea Party wants to deny benefits to?

/drops mic