Tracking Students Like Cattle

[AnticorRifling]

Should probably get rid of hall monitors and taking attendance too.

[Bobmuhthol]

1. Hall monitors actually exist?
2. Taking attendance doesn't track you. I can't stop you from looking to see if I'm in the same room but I can surely stop you from scanning for my radio ID. There should be no lawful punishment for this.

[m444w]

It isn't like the government can't trace you with your cellphone or anything already. Now they just want to condition the new generation that it is perfectly acceptable... unless you have something to hide, of course. Who knows, in 30 years maybe they won't even need a warrant!

[Wyrmx]

I don't think they are that I've heard of. Hell a lot of frequent flyers in hospitals bring their cell in & use it rather than pay for the hospital phones. I've never heard anyone say they can't either.

Many hospitals are now retrofitting leaky coax with RF repeaters to provide localized cell service.

::Waits patiently for comments on leaky coax::

[Clove]

Really? You think a person (any member of a school administration, noting of course that almost all of these people are fucking retarded) should have that kind of power over a student body? I don't care how legal or illegal, ethical or unethical my actions are -- it's not acceptable to use RFID tracking on students.

Why? What possible difference would it make to you if an administrator has the ability locate you on school grounds?

[Bobmuhthol]

It's an authority they don't need to have. I am more open to it if they get the same badges and I can locate them at my leisure.

[AnticorRifling]

Except you, the student, are never liable for the safety of the administrator are you? If I'm supposed to make sure you're getting to class, being safe, etc. then having a tool that lets me do that ONLY AT SCHOOL is bad how?

[Clove]

It's an authority they don't need to have. I am more open to it if they get the same badges and I can locate them at my leisure.

They're responsible for access to the property and liable for injuries. So yes. They could benefit from being able to locate students. On the other hand you have no authority or responsibility so you don't need to locate staff.

My question was, however, why would it matter to you if you could be located? Focus.

[Bobmuhthol]

You can have as many tools as you want, as long as they can track me without forcing me to possess that tracking device. It doesn't make me any safer and it arguably violates the Fifth Amendment.

[Clove]

You can have as many tools as you want, as long as they can track me without forcing me to possess that tracking device. It doesn't make me any safer and it arguably violates the Fifth Amendment.

Why. What difference does it make if you're required to carry an ID without an RF tracker as opposed to one that is? How does being required to carry a badge for access to a facility a violation of your Fifth Amendment rights?

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

I don't see how this relates to trackable ID's?