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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I'm not saying the did or didn't I don't know and you don't know. My question is on if the woman ALREADY WORKED at the ATF BEFORE the DEI position was created. If so, then I have no problem with her being moved back to her old job.

    I think it would be completely shitty to fire a woman from a job that she has been at for 10 or 20 years because she had to fill a position that was mandated by the prior admin. If she was simply hired in specifically for that position, then no, she shouldn't get any special treatment.
    I understand where you are coming from and find that to be generally reasonable.

    As you mentioned, I also don’t know what she did or if she was employed by the ATF prior to her position as Chief of DEI. I tried searching just now. She doesn’t seem to have a LinkedIn and the ATF leadership page on their website does not provide her bio (shocker).

    As I stated before, at minimum somebody (either the Executive branch or Congress) should look into the matter. It seems rather suspicious given the department’s history and timing of the job title change. I suppose you could be right that they simply hired her back into her old position. We don’t know. Someone should find out.

    Let’s say though that she was in fact in a leadership position prior to her DEI role, and the agency just simply hired her into her prior role as you said is a possibility. I’d still take issue with that. That would mean they just suddenly found the need for a new senior leadership role and hired this woman into it without consideration to any other candidate for the job. We can assume that is the case with great confidence due to the sudden change of her job title after Trump’s order. She should have been placed on paid administrative leave as per the order, then the ATF could have opened a requisition for the role, and then Ms. Boykin could have applied & interviewed for the position just like any other candidates. In your proposed situation, the bureau is not being transparent with the public, are creating leadership positions on a whim, and making hiring decisions without consideration to who would be best for the role as evidenced by the fact that nobody else was considered.
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    The executive order Trump signed was to place all DEI people on paid leave. That would lead me to believe that they are basically shooting first, asking questions later. In other words place her on paid leave now, then investigate her work history with the agency, and if she was merely moved to the DEI department to fulfill dumbass Biden's DEI program then she can have her old job back.

    But I suppose it's possible that is exactly what they did, but they did so almost immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tgo01 View Post
    The executive order Trump signed was to place all DEI people on paid leave. That would lead me to believe that they are basically shooting first, asking questions later. In other words place her on paid leave now, then investigate her work history with the agency, and if she was merely moved to the DEI department to fulfill dumbass Biden's DEI program then she can have her old job back.

    But I suppose it's possible that is exactly what they did, but they did so almost immediately.
    No she can't, if she is at that level she should get the axe, just like every other person at ATF at that level. Again, fire everyone that they can, all of them, period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Rocktar~ View Post
    No she can't, if she is at that level she should get the axe, just like every other person at ATF at that level. Again, fire everyone that they can, all of them, period.
    The ATF isn't going anywhere. Trump is actually using the ATF to help with deportations.
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