Is Trump Eligible to Run Again?

[Suppressed Poet]

Not talking specifically about Trump, but your logic is flawed. We are a country of law, if someone broke the law and therefore becomes ineligible to become president, the will of the people doesn’t really matter.

This is a civil case, but he hasn’t been found guilty of any crimes including insurrection. In the criminal court he hasn’t even been charged with insurrection. I agree and uphold we are a nation of laws, but this (along with other cases) is an unprecedented clear political attack. We’re giving power to bureaucrat judges (whose opinion varies) on what happened J6 & Trump’s ballot eligibility on an amendment clause designed for the immediate following of the civil war. Insurrection in the 1860s meant armies fighting & hundreds of thousands of Americans dead. However you feel about Trump, J6, and all that…this is obviously way different.

Let the people decide and let democracy prevail. Unless you think that the people are incapable of deciding for themselves, which would be a bigger issue.

[Solkern]

This is a civil case, but he hasn’t been found guilty of any crimes including insurrection. In the criminal court he hasn’t even been charged with insurrection. I agree and uphold we are a nation of laws, but this (along with other cases) is an unprecedented clear political attack. We’re giving power to bureaucrat judges (whose opinion varies) on what happened J6 & Trump’s ballot eligibility on an amendment clause designed for the immediate following of the civil war. Insurrection in the 1860s meant armies fighting & hundreds of thousands of Americans dead. However you feel about Trump, J6, and all that…this is obviously way different.

Let the people decide and let democracy prevail.

I wasn’t talking about Trump specifically, his entire situation is a giant shitstorm. I was talking about the part of your post about letting the people decide.

[Parkbandit]

I wasn’t talking about Trump specifically, his entire situation is a giant shitstorm. I was talking about the part of your post about letting the people decide.

The presumption of innocence is still a Constitutional right that everyone, even someone you hate so much, has in this country.

If you want him off the ballot, then charge and convict him of insurrection. He hasn't been charged with that.

The "judges" that don't know this and supported him being off the ballot should be removed from their jobs... not only because they don't know their role in this country.. but they clearly don't understand the Constitution.

[Suppressed Poet]

I wasn’t talking about Trump specifically, his entire situation is a giant shitstorm. I was talking about the part of your post about letting the people decide.

I get it. Trump is divisive, and I agree we are a nation of laws and a Constitution.

To clarify, I think this civil suit under the terms of the 14th amendment is frivolous and never should have happened. Since it has it’s going to take its course through the legal route. It just seems the overall strategy of Democrats is to do whatever is necessary to make it so the front runner of their political opposition can’t make it on the ballot. They are throwing every legal challenge at a particular candidate, no matter how obscure, in the hopes of removing him as a choice by the people. Similar tactics are used in other totalitarian nations. That undemocratic behavior is going to backfire badly in my opinion.

Edit: Trump hasn’t been found guilty of insurrection or any other crime. We are leaving the deciding of his guilt or innocence of that in the hands of appointed judges in a civil trial relating to his ballot eligibility. I say, since he hasn’t been convicted of a crime…let the people decide who they want to for.

[Solkern]

I get it. Trump is divisive, and I agree we are a nation of laws and a Constitution.

To clarify, I think this civil suit under the terms of the 14th amendment is frivolous and never should have happened. Since it has it’s going to take its course through the legal route. It just seems the overall strategy of Democrats is to do whatever is necessary to make it so the front runner of their political opposition can’t make it on the ballot. They are throwing every legal challenge at a particular candidate, no matter how obscure, in the hopes of removing him as a choice by the people. Similar tactics are used in other totalitarian nations. That undemocratic behavior is going to backfire badly in my opinion.

Edit: Trump hasn’t been found guilty of insurrection or any other crime. We are leaving the deciding of his guilt or innocence of that in the hands of appointed judges in a civil trial relating to his ballot eligibility. I say, since he hasn’t been convicted of a crime…let the people decide who they want to for.

I know the constitution means a lot to you.

Section 3 of the Civil War-era 14th Amendment says: “No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States ... who, having previously taken an oath ... as an officer of the United States, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

It does not say the word convicted, or tried or anything like that at all. It simply says, engaged in an insurrection or rebellion.
Since this specific situation has not been debated ever(in SCOTUS), you need to take the constitution as it’s worded. Until SCOTUS steps in clarifies it.

And what would you say, if by chance, a Republican and conservative majority SCOTUS upholds it?

[Seran]

Funny how Democrats accuse Trump of interrupting the electoral process on J6 while they proactively seek to remove the decision from the people of this country on who shall be our next president. This is the most anti-American undemocratic thing I’ve ever experienced.

It’s cool though… This too shall be overturned.

Trump removed himself from eligibility of office by violating the Untied States Constitution, not Democrats. Get your story straight.

[Anebriated]

Democrats arent picking this fight for no reason. They know this will go to SCOTUS and theyll probably lose. My only guess is that they are going to use it as a tool to boost their efforts to pack the courts.

[Alfster]

Funny how Democrats accuse Trump of interrupting the electoral process on J6 while they proactively seek to remove the decision from the people of this country on who shall be our next president. This is the most anti-American undemocratic thing I’ve ever experienced.

It’s cool though… This too shall be overturned.

Y'all love the Constitution until you find out what's in it. Lol

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[Alfster]

Democrats arent picking this fight for no reason. They know this will go to SCOTUS and theyll probably lose. My only guess is that they are going to use it as a tool to boost their efforts to pack the courts.

It wasn't the Dems who brought it forward lol.

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[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Trump removed himself from eligibility of office by violating the Untied States Constitution, not Democrats. Get your story straight.

Prove it.