Tyranny of the ATF

[Solkern]

I wouldn’t be totally opposed to that if:

It was free for the buyer and seller
The process was fast and not cumbersome
It can be done & the law enforced without creating a national firearm registry

I can’t speak to the legality on all things, but if the above conditions were met I wouldn’t write angry letters to my representative about it.

Awesome, glad we could come to an agreement!

[Suppressed Poet]

Awesome, glad we could come to an agreement!

Awesome indeed.

[kutter]

When we’re talking about firearms background check let’s keep it standardized & in the context to completing an ATF form 4473 & a NICS check. The only ones that can effectively do that are registered FFLs (firearms dealers). FFLs get audited by the ATF for record keeping and such. They are required to hold onto 4473s for a period of 10 years if I am not mistaken.

I am almost positive they are required to hold on to them in perpetuity and if the store closes, they have to forward them to the ATF, at least that is what an acquaintance of mine that is an FFL and owns a store told me. But he gets flooded every few years where he stores his records and invariably loses all of them.

[Suppressed Poet]

I am almost positive they are required to hold on to them in perpetuity and if the store closes, they have to forward them to the ATF, at least that is what an acquaintance of mine that is an FFL and owns a store told me. But he gets flooded every few years where he stores his records and invariably loses all of them.

You may very well be right that it’s indefinitely. My sympathy for his boating accident.

[Seran]

Exciting week for the Biden Administration! The Supreme Court has lifted a stay against federal rules on ghost guns and for California, the Court of Appeals has upheld California laws on high capacity magazines.

[Parkbandit]

Exciting week for the Biden Administration! The Supreme Court has lifted a stay against federal rules on ghost guns and for California, the Court of Appeals has upheld California laws on high capacity magazines.

Holy shit, we are saved! President Biden has solved the gun problem in America!

[Suppressed Poet]

Exciting week for the Biden Administration! The Supreme Court has lifted a stay against federal rules on ghost guns and for California, the Court of Appeals has upheld California laws on high capacity magazines.

Yay for tyranny!

I’d expect nothing less from the 9th Circus…I mean Circuit. SCOTUS lifting the stay on so called ghost guns was a little surprising, but they do tend to side with government on stays until a final decision is reached. It will take years to resolve both, but I have an inclination that SCOTUS will take on the magazine case after 9th Circuit finds some way to ignore Bruen.

[Suppressed Poet]

“During my twelve-and-a-half years as a member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or federal registration of guns would reduce crime.” -Joe Biden 1985 on Senate floor

[Seran]

“During my twelve-and-a-half years as a member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or federal registration of guns would reduce crime.” -Joe Biden
1985 on Senate floor

Hopefully he'll be held accountable for his reversal on positions. Sure the quote is approaching forty years old and things have changed, but to be on the record saying you didn't think gun control legislations was needed and that regulations would have no meaningful impact on crime since criminals will always be able to get guns is in direct conflict with his current position.

[Parkbandit]

Hopefully he'll be held accountable for his reversal on positions. Sure the quote is approaching forty years old and things have changed, but to be on the record saying you didn't think gun control legislations was needed and that regulations would have no meaningful impact on crime since criminals will always be able to get guns is in direct conflict with his current position.

What "things have changed" so dramatically that his complete 180 on that position should have changed 40 years later?

And that quote is going on 40 years.. because that old fuck has been suckling on the teet of government for his entire adult life.

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