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    Don't get into a semantics argument with them...

    I've played and posted numerous videos/articles of the Left saying all types of shit and outright threats.

    They don't care. They will talk you in circles, because they will never acknowledge wrongdoing on their part. It's a fools errand to try and convince them otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    I have yet to see direct evidence directly linking Trump to this grand conspiracy. I’ve certainly heard a lot of circumstantial (at best if not hearsay) evidence, but I have my reasonable doubt.

    A lot of criminal defense lawyers would sympathize with your concerns. People in the United States have been sentenced to death based on nothing more than circumstantial evidence. That's all you need if a jury believes the circumstances are strong enough to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    Not a cop out. You said there was a DOCUMENTED PLAN. I haven’t seen one. Yes that is the burden of proof for conspiracy charges. I have yet to see direct evidence directly linking Trump to this grand conspiracy. I’ve certainly heard a lot of circumstantial (at best if not hearsay) evidence, but I have my reasonable doubt.
    And you think a documented plan requires be have written, authorized, or signed it that isn't the burden of proof that must be established. That his attorney and underling prepared the order, he had personal knowledge of it and he personally took part in is all that is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    And you think a documented plan requires be have written, authorized, or signed it that isn't the burden of proof that must be established. That his attorney and underling prepared the order, he had personal knowledge of it and he personally took part in is all that is required.
    Odd.. sort of like Joe Biden and his family getting millions?

    Oh wait.. that's your team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClydeR View Post
    A lot of criminal defense lawyers would sympathize with your concerns. People in the United States have been sentenced to death based on nothing more than circumstantial evidence. That's all you need if a jury believes the circumstances are strong enough to establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
    True. Also The Juice was found not guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressed Poet View Post
    True. Also The Juice was found not guilty.
    That lucky ass murderin bastid.
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    I think people genuinely don't know what circumstantial evidence is.

    Fingerprints are circumstantial evidence.

    ANYTHING collected by forensics is circumstantial.

    Anything short of a video showing someone do something is generally going to be circumstantial.

    You can absolutely convict someone on circumstantial evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seran View Post
    And you think a documented plan requires be have written, authorized, or signed it that isn't the burden of proof that must be established. That his attorney and underling prepared the order, he had personal knowledge of it and he personally took part in is all that is required.
    documented
    /ˈdäkyəˌment/
    record (something) in written, photographic, or other form.

    I’ll accept a photo or another form if you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelston View Post
    I think people genuinely don't know what circumstantial evidence is.

    Fingerprints are circumstantial evidence.

    ANYTHING collected by forensics is circumstantial.

    Anything short of a video showing someone do something is generally going to be circumstantial.

    You can absolutely convict someone on circumstantial evidence.
    Yes you can, but it requires a lot of connecting of the dots that a good defense can poke holes in.

    I’m not saying that it’s impossible for Trump to be convicted. I’m saying that Trump is a public figure. People have strong opinions and biases. Yes I’m aware that shouldn’t matter but we all know that is a factor. My opinion of the J6 case is that it’s not strong enough, based on the evidence we the public know today, for 12 jurors to unanimously render a guilty verdict. It only takes one to say no.

    On a separate note, do you know how rare jury trials are in other countries & how fortunate we are to have them in the United States? God bless America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaps View Post
    Don't get into a semantics argument with them...

    I've played and posted numerous videos/articles of the Left saying all types of shit and outright threats.

    They don't care. They will talk you in circles, because they will never acknowledge wrongdoing on their part. It's a fools errand to try and convince them otherwise.
    Oh, well that is your first mistake right there. You aren’t going to convince anyone on the PC your views. We’re just here to shoot the shit man. You have to enjoy the circles and take entertainment from it.

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