More Obamacare fuckups

[Atlanteax]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/23/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

Before it even launched, red flags went up about the Obamacare website. Health insurance companies complained about it, and the site crashed during a test run. But nobody told the President of any of it, the nation's health chief told CNN.
Kathleen Sebelius said President Barack Obama didn't hear that there may be problems with the sign-up portal for his signature health care law until it went live on October 1. That's when the site nosedived into a technical abyss.

Sounds like the Democrats are smelling the potential negative political impact, and Sebelius is diving on the grenade (of *course* Obama knew ... *LAWL* @ him not being informed)

[Parkbandit]

If only you guys would froth so hard about all Heritage Foundation crafted policies.

This never, ever gets old. Really.

Why is it when you find something to post about, you do it ad nauseum?

We get it already.

[Wrathbringer]

JFC shut the fuck up about the ACA already. No one's liberties are being taken away. You live in the greatest country in the world. You're fucking spoiled whiney entitled armchair would-be anarchists who really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If the government went away tomorrow you'd be fucked. Seriously.

Even if you believed that the ACA didn't take away anyone's liberties today, the indentured servitude of our children/grandchildren to gluttonously fund our own unobtainable/unsustainable socialist Utopian aspirations today is immoral, in my view. Not yours?

[Methais]

JFC shut the fuck up about the ACA already. No one's liberties are being taken away. You live in the greatest country in the world. You're fucking spoiled whiney entitled armchair would-be anarchists who really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If the government went away tomorrow you'd be fucked. Seriously.

What about my liberty to choose to not purchase health insurance if I don't want it without paying a fine/tax?

Is that liberty going away? A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Bonus points if you can do it without either:

a) Saying something totally unrelated instead, and calling me racist.
b) WB showing up first and saying something totally unrelated instead, and calling me racist.

[Warriorbird]

Even if you believed that the ACA didn't take away anyone's liberties today, the indentured servitude of our children/grandchildren to gluttonously fund our own unobtainable/unsustainable socialist Utopian aspirations today is immoral, in my view. Not yours?

You live off the rest of us. Why do you feel you have a say?

[Jarvan]

So I have a question... there are a bunch of Dems now asking for a 1 year delay in the individual mandate. Obama has even hinted that he may be willing to have a delay in it.

Does this mean, that WHEN they delay the individual mandate, Repubs can basically say.. "Dem's kept the government shutdown for 2 weeks for no reason now".

Kinda makes you laugh, "No Negotiations!!...... but wait 1 month and I will do it anyway"

[cwolff]

So I have a question... there are a bunch of Dems now asking for a 1 year delay in the individual mandate. Obama has even hinted that he may be willing to have a delay in it.

Does this mean, that WHEN they delay the individual mandate, Repubs can basically say.. "Dem's kept the government shutdown for 2 weeks for no reason now".

Kinda makes you laugh, "No Negotiations!!...... but wait 1 month and I will do it anyway"

No dude. It doesn't mean that at all. The Gov't shutdown was to defund all of the ACA. The mandate is something that people discussed targeting but the republicans never achieved a level of organization to make that their one demand. There was another thing going on too and that's precedent. If you think a sitting president is going to weaken the presidency like that you're smoking crack. Why penalize people if they are incapable of getting insurance through no fault of their own? That makes no damn sense at all.

I know you guys just say/repeat this stuff because it's argumentative and fits your partyline. Don't you ever think objectively though? You have all this freedom to think for yourself, to learn, to read up on issues yet you never get above the basest bullshit.

[cwolff]

What about my liberty to choose to not purchase health insurance if I don't want it without paying a fine/tax?

Is that liberty going away? A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Bonus points if you can do it without either:

a) Saying something totally unrelated instead, and calling me racist.
b) WB showing up first and saying something totally unrelated instead, and calling me racist.

Show us where you have absolute freedom and liberty? You don't. Why do you even try this argument, it makes no sense. We have laws that govern the things we can and can not do. It's nothing new and specifically Financial Responsibility laws are nothing new.

[Parkbandit]

I know you guys just say/repeat this stuff because it's argumentative and fits your partyline. Don't you ever think objectively though? You have all this freedom to think for yourself, to learn, to read up on issues yet you never get above the basest bullshit.

[cwolff]

edit: Exactly PB. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Thank you for the timely example.