"Occupy Wall Street" videos

[~Rocktar~]

They always claim they'll create 500 jobs so the city will approve the building of a new store.

Of course they never create anywhere near 500 jobs. 200 sounds about right, if anything it's high.

Last time I knew, over a year ago, an average 24hour Walmart Super Center doing around 70-120 million in retail sales a year has around 500-600 employees on the payroll, most are part time at around 20 hours a week. They were working hard to pare this down and cut positions and hours.

[Tgo01]

Where did you get this tactic from.. walmartsucks.com?

How often do you believe this strategy will work? I mean, they have some 8000+ stores. And do you believe that a city would tell them "No thanks, 200 isn't enough.. but if you hired 500, then heck yea!"

My bad I got that wrong, they claim they'll create that many jobs in order to receive tax breaks, which companies do all the time for promising jobs.

However companies usually promise way more jobs than they actually deliver yet usually keep their tax breaks.

Last time I knew, over a year ago, an average 24hour Walmart Super Center doing around 70-120 million in retail sales a year has around 500-600 employees on the payroll, most are part time at around 20 hours a week. They were working hard to pare this down and cut positions and hours.

http://walmartstores.com/aboutus/7606.aspx

Regular store: Each store employs about 225 associates.
Supercenters: Supercenters average 185,000 square feet and employ about 350 or more associates.

[Gan]

The point was that cutting edge things that people wanted were comparable chunks of cutting edge stuff were similar (adjusted) prices, but they've become less affordable now. As The Wedding Singer reminded us, 6-CD CD players used to cost like 600 bucks.

Your relation of economics to the movie The Wedding Singer pretty much sums up why you should stay far away from these types of discussions.

[Gan]

Seems low from what I remember when they were plugging the Super Center.

I would submit that a 24 hour super center employs more than 200 employees considering the size of the operation, range of staff positions required and the hours of operation.

Retail workers, floor reps, cashiers, floor supervisors, management, security, stockers, grocery (butcher, bakery, produce, etc.) janitorial, general maintenance, dock workers, customer service, cart reclaimers, automotive shop mechanics, parts desk and more that I'm sure I'm not thinking of.

[diethx]

Oh, it just talks about a bunch of businesses (not just small ones) driven out of business or severely damaged by it, including a number that were once in my area.

I don't think it treats workers too badly, personally. I know Alok's mileage is far different on that. Though would Walmart workers talk badly about it on tv while they were still employed by it?

No, they probably wouldn't talk badly about the company while still working there. I dunno, I guess I just don't get that phony feel from Penn & Teller's show - in that I don't feel they'd have someone on there to spew bullshit (lol u see what I did thar?) and actually agree with them.

Seriously though, I understand that Walmart has harmed mom n pop stores who just can't compete with the low prices. I also feel though that Walmart has done a lot of good for a lot of people. Not just those who couldn't find work elsewhere, but those who cannot afford the higher prices at said mom n pop stores. But to call them a monopoly is pretty silly, as people who can afford a choice will have a LOT of places to choose from for food, housewares, clothing, electronics, etc.

[pabstblueribbon]

No, they probably wouldn't talk badly about the company while still working there. I dunno, I guess I just don't get that phony feel from Penn & Teller's show - in that I don't feel they'd have someone on there to spew bullshit (lol u see what I did thar?) and actually agree with them.

Seriously though, I understand that Walmart has harmed mom n pop stores who just can't compete with the low prices. I also feel though that Walmart has done a lot of good for a lot of people. Not just those who couldn't find work elsewhere, but those who cannot afford the higher prices at said mom n pop stores. But to call them a monopoly is pretty silly, as people who can afford a choice will have a LOT of places to choose from for food, housewares, clothing, electronics, etc.

Is someone arguing with me? I'm incredibly bad at detecting sarcasm. Who likes gravy?

Oh.

[Liagala]

I'm pretty sure this fits into the conversation somewhere.

[Rinualdo]

Here's some fact checking on all those job killing regulations.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

[Parkbandit]

Here's some fact checking on all those job killing regulations.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

So they aren't "Huge" job killers.. but we can all agree that they don't create jobs, right?

[Rinualdo]

So they aren't "Huge" job killers.. but we can all agree that they don't create jobs, right?

Who said regulations were about creating jobs?