Thank God Bush is gone soon

[Clove]

Where i disagree is the use of the word lie. Is it a lie if you believe the information to be ture?

That's why I posted it. It can be proven that the information available was incorrect. That doesn't follow that the administration was lying; unless it can be proven they were aware that the information was bad.

Given the UN September ultimatum and the opinions of world intelligence services at the time- to say that the Bush administration was aware the information was bad is a tough sell.

[Ogreslayer]

"The question is, was it known to be erroneous at the time?"

As well, was it based on the best information available at the time? This report was written with little interest in providing truth, critical assessment, or clarity, just spin.

It is laughable that the MSM treats this report as something worthy of serious journalism. When do we see the report that characterizes Clinton's statements regarding the threat of WMDs in Iraq as "lies"?

[Parkbandit]

Clearly Sean2 forgot all about Krendeli when he made the sandbox...

[Krendeli]

Clearly Sean2 forgot all about Krendeli when he made the sandbox...

That's right. Send off all the sane Democrats so you nut jobs can have your own little fantasy world to play in.

[sst]

Bush went to war due to geopolitics. It had nothing to do with WMDs. Our potential power capability is about 600 times greater then Iraq, calling them a threat even if they possessed nuclear weapons and the delivery system needed to use them would be laughable.

I dont know what to say to this... a delivery system can be a sailboat. If you think other countires with nukes are not threats, you sir, i call a retard.

[Blud]

Our potential power capability is about 600 times greater then Iraq, calling them a threat even if they possessed nuclear weapons and the delivery system needed to use them would be laughable.

Except, not so laughable if they had the capability to deliver said nuclear weapons to the US by way of said delivery system. Sure we might retaliate, but still, we would be bombed nonetheless. That makes the threat not so laughable, and to be taken very seriously.

[Sean of the Thread]

That's right. Send off all the sane Democrats so you nut jobs can have your own little fantasy world to play in.

but... I am a democrat.

and I'm sorry I let you slip thru the cracks.

[Parkbandit]

That's right. Send off all the sane Democrats so you nut jobs can have your own little fantasy world to play in.

No.. the sane Democrats can stay.. it's the retards with no grasp of history or reality like yourself that typically end up posting something foolish and stupid and ignorant and then ruining an otherwise good debate.

Claiming you are even close to being sane would fall into that category.

[TheEschaton]

Both George Tenet and Richard Clark have said that they counseled that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and they were told to find the evidence. Both counseled that there were probably no WMD in Iraq, but they were told to not operate on that "theory."

George Bush, in his SOTU speech, used an intelligence report stating Iraq had yellowcake, which had been proven to be factually incorrect months prior. Tenet had expressed that he didn't think that should be in the speech, and the Administration decided to put it in anyways.

When someone tried to tell the truth about that report, they outed his CIA wife, who was working undercover.

I'm sorry, they knew the information was false, they chose to use it anyways.

-TheE-

[Clove]

Yeah, the evidence wasn't a slam-dunk. Just the argument