Trump’s last 74 days in office...

[caelric]

No, they are strategic bombers, that have been in the past put into a CAS role for various reasons, but the idea of a B-52 being used as a First choice, second choice or even third choice as a CAS craft is just stupid. The operational cost is just too high for it to loiter around and wait for CAS engagements when there are tons of other planes that have a specific role of CAS, that have much lower operational cost. Anything could be used for CAS. Sending B-52’s into the Middle East suddenly and unplanned in a CAS role? Completely modified for that specific role? With its massive 170k per hour price tag? When we have plenty of other planes that fit that specific role? Yeah right. A B-52’s role as CAS should and has been heavily constrained.

Out of curiosity, what's your experience and background to make these claims?

[Gelston]

Out of curiosity, what's your experience and background to make these claims?

Interestingly, in Operation Arc Light during Vietnam, B-52s provided CAS with 100% dumb bombs. So it goes back even further than I claimed.

[BriarFox]

Why would you argue with a military guy about what a plane is for? Do you argue with a photographer about what lighting to use?

[LOL BRIELUS]

wow interesting. Joint Publication 3-09.3, Close Air Support, clearly allows for bombers as close air support. it even calls out B-52 in it. So doctrine allows for it. Of course, that is a planning consideration, not operational reality of what is actually available for use in your AO. very very interesting stuff here.

[~Rocktar~]

Want me to post more articles or are you still going to act like an expert on some shit you know nothing about?

Yes, yes he will.

[Parkbandit]

No, they are strategic bombers, that have been in the past put into a CAS role for various reasons, but the idea of a B-52 being used as a First choice, second choice or even third choice as a CAS craft is just stupid. The operational cost is just too high for it to loiter around and wait for CAS engagements when there are tons of other planes that have a specific role of CAS, that have much lower operational cost. Anything could be used for CAS. Sending B-52’s into the Middle East suddenly and unplanned in a CAS role? Completely modified for that specific role? With its massive 170k per hour price tag? When we have plenty of other planes that fit that specific role? Yeah right. A B-52’s role as CAS should and has been heavily constrained.

Doubling down on your utter stupidity... I'm so happy...

Tell Gelston he doesn't know anything. I bet he's never even been in the military like you obviously have...

Stolen Valor!

[Blazar]

Doubling down on your utter stupidity... I'm so happy...

Tell Gelston he doesn't know anything. I bet he's never even been in the military like you obviously have...

Stolen Valor!

Anyone can say they've done anything on the internet, and no one really has a way to validate it. You say you're a plumber but for all we know, that's just what you call yourself when it's enema time.

[Solkern]

Are you that fucking dense? They are strategic bombers, yes, that was their originally role. They have been used in a CAS role for the last 20 years also. A simple google search will provide the evidence if you don't believe what I've seen with my own eyes.

And it doesn't take many modifications. Most of the bombs dropped now are smart munitions.

And loitering is what B-52s were originally designed to do. Also, LOL at you for thinking the US considers 170k an hour expensive. We blow a 500 grand on a missile to kill a donkey often enough.

B-52s can come from a further away Air Base, IE, not one in Afghanistan, it can loiter in the air awaiting a mission, out of range of man portable SAMs, and carries WAY more munitions. Keep trying to pretend to know wtf you're talking about though because you sucked dick around Russia.

They do it so often, they are even doing training integration with allies.



Here, have another article talking about its CAS role. https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/th...t-w-1679885252

Another article stating B1-s and B52s were fulfilling a CAS role since at least 2001. https://breakingdefense.com/2014/05/...really-do-cas/

B-52s doing CAS in a French-led exercise. https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/1...-in-serpentex/

Want me to post more articles or are you still going to act like an expert on some shit you know nothing about?

You honestly think a slow moving, non stealthed aircraft as big as a fucking b-52 is used to loiter and wait for CAS engagements? You are really that dense? Yeah let’s just paint a fucking red bullseye on the plane as well. Like I said it has been used for CAS in the past, buts it’s main role isn’t Close air support. It’s main role is a strategic bomber. ANYTHING, can be used as CAS, but sending in b-52 first for CAS, when we have plenty of better planes for that role is stupid. And yes $170k an hour is ducking expensive, especially when it’s double the operating cost of the next plane and more than 4-5times more than conventional CAS planes.

[Gelston]

You honestly think a slow moving, non stealthed aircraft as big as a fucking b-52 is used to loiter and wait for CAS engagements? You are really that dense? Yeah let’s just paint a fucking red bullseye on the plane as well. Like I said it has been used for CAS in the past, buts it’s main role isn’t Close air support. It’s main role is a strategic bomber. ANYTHING, can be used as CAS, but sending in b-52 first for CAS, when we have plenty of better planes for that role is stupid. And yes $170k an hour is ducking expensive, especially when it’s double the operating cost of the next plane and more than 4-5times more than conventional CAS planes.

..... It is. You're just fucking retarded at this point. I've personally seen it in action. I've given you several sources saying it does happen. If you want to dispute it at this point you are just a fucking idiot.

[LOL BRIELUS]

You honestly think a slow moving, non stealthed aircraft as big as a fucking b-52 is used to loiter and wait for CAS engagements? You are really that dense? Yeah let’s just paint a fucking red bullseye on the plane as well. Like I said it has been used for CAS in the past, buts it’s main role isn’t Close air support. It’s main role is a strategic bomber. ANYTHING, can be used as CAS, but sending in b-52 first for CAS, when we have plenty of better planes for that role is stupid. And yes $170k an hour is ducking expensive, especially when it’s double the operating cost of the next plane and more than 4-5times more than conventional CAS planes.

Dude you need to read the doctrine I cited. B-52 can serve a nice role as CAS. It has superior loiter time and standoff range due to how high it flies. An ISIS bro with a MANPAD cannot reach them. They are employing precision guided missiles or bombs. So it's not really a bullseye. All this is google-able. Anyway, great discussion. Joint capabilities are so cool