GMs are going to literally rewrite game lore and mechanics to remove racism

[Methais]

I agree. This entire thing was merely a "feel good" movement that would have had 0 impact on racism in the real world. This felt like it was a way for some zealots to check the "I did my part!" box without actually getting involved.

It was the Simu version of thoughts & prayers.

[Neveragain]

It was the Simu version of thoughts & prayers.

With a smattering of inquisition.

[Alorn15]

One thing about evil people is that they often fight under the banner of good. This is very true in today's society, and pretty true through out history as well. How then, do you tell the difference between a legit decent person from someone who's evil or an asshole masquerading as the just?

An observation I learned from elsewhere is that "good" tend to be eager to help. You ask someone good for help, they tend to just give it. You ask someone who's evil for help, there'll be hoops to jump through. Verification to make sure you really need the help, make sure that you're worthy to receive said help, and only then would evil reluctantly offer the requested help. This part is not that relevant to this whole political/racial clusterfuck, but it's neat to mull over.

What's more relevant to the whole dumpster fire discussion that was on the officials, though, it's that the reverse is true for punishment/harm. You tell someone good to harm or punish someone, they tend to be reluctant. Make you jump through hoops, make sure the intended victim really really deserve whatever shit that's proposed to go their way, and only then would they reluctantly dish out said harm. You tell someone evil that it's time to fuck someone up, they go for it with glee. No need to verify that the victim really deserves whatever harm that's tossed their way, they tend to start shit and dish out punishment/harm eagerly when the opportunity presents itself.

When I read through this whole thing on the officials, I noticed one side being very eager to dish out punishments. Slap nasty labels or worse on people who presented dissenting opinions and start flaming and sniping at them all nitty gritty. I noticed the other side mostly not doing that, and pretty much only sometimes flaming back when they have been flamed first.

No need to name specific names or point particular sides out, but who have you noticed during all this that was very eager to dish out punishments, slap labels on people and start flaming first chance they get? Which side seemed to have been doing it a lot more?

Very interesting. I'll have to give this some thought and watch for punishment/labeling/flaming with this in mind. My main concern - and apologies if I'm missing part of your point here - is I think that forcing people into binaries like good or evil is often a trap. I can't tell you how many times I've separated people in my mind into groups like stupid/smart or good/bad, only to later find out that I didn't actually understand the person. This seems especially easy to do across cultures, which I think happens a lot in the US between north/south, left/right, urban/rural etc. I'm not saying we shouldn't ever condemn people, just that I personally have historically been too quick to do so (okay, fine, and that I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this).

I guess that an easier pill to swallow that accomplishes the same thing is the phrase, "Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to incompetence."

EDIT: I can't write the word "never" without thinking of this quote, which I think is also relevant: "Only the Sith deal in absolutes".

[Drew]

This may be obvious but SIMU are deleting a lot of dissenting opinions off the forums.

[Tgo01]

This may be obvious but SIMU are deleting a lot of dissenting opinions off the forums.

This topic still being discussed over there? Or are they deleting old posts?

[Parkbandit]

This may be obvious but SIMU are deleting a lot of dissenting opinions off the forums.

So... typical play.net forums.

[gilchristr]

Possible changes:
- get rid of dark elves
- add mechanics for trannies
- gender neutral treehouse for TSC

[Tgo01]

Possible changes:
- get rid of dark elves
- add mechanics for trannies
- gender neutral treehouse for TSC

I would be shocked if they don't allow people to customize their gender somehow.

[Gelston]

I would be shocked if they don't allow people to customize their gender somehow.

Gender shouldn't even be a thing. You can literally change from male to female with magic, like actually change. Not the BS surgical options we have in the real world.

And lore, as far as I can remember, never treated one sex differently than another.

[Neveragain]

- add mechanics for trannies
- gender neutral treehouse for TSC

So basically, Vishra is taking advantage of 400 years of oppression against black people to get her own tree house?